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    Angela Eagle

    I think she deserves enormous credit for putting herself forward when it was clear the reception she'll get from the membership and Momentum. I don't think she's long-term leadership material but at least she's been willing to test the water to potentially allow others in.
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    The Official, 103rd Tour de France, thread

    Bloody Nibali, what possessed me to pick him?? :rant:
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    [Other Sport] Cycling geeks

    I have checked the instructions and, as in previous years, you can have someone pick up your starting pack for you. However you do need to provide a copy of ID - which is why I am offering it here, to people that I at least vaguely know, rather than to complete strangers. While it's true that...
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    [Other Sport] Cycling geeks

    So I have a "friend". This friend has a place for Ride London, but has done absolutely sod all training and has decided not to participate. Would anyone here be interested in taking the place? It is an 8:10AM start, so quite late (estimated time 6 hours but they obviously didn't believe me... I...
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    Vikings (No spoilers)

    Is it the kind of thing the Mrs will like as well? We've spent the past 5 months binging on all of How I Met Your Mother, and are now looking for a new binge. Have both Netflix and Amazon Prime. Without wanting to go too far O/T, we watched the first episode of Arrow last night and it was felt...
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    Boris is NOT running

    That line of argument doesn't hold up to any scrutiny. £350m a week to the NHS was also part of the Brexit platform, but no-one intends to honour that. As was taking back control, and no-one has a scooby's what that even means. A big part of the problem with the discussions around the referendum...
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    Boris is NOT running

    It depends where you think the powers lie in negotiations. Yes banks and financial services want "passporting" - but I agree with you that only happens with free movement, and it would take monumental chutzpah for either Gove or May to say that they were taking notice of the electoral will in...
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    Boris is NOT running

    I've swung between various 'most likely' scenarios over the past week. May this morning said that something needs to be done about immigration, which makes a pure EEA option unlikely IMO. At the moment I think it's most likely to be a "Norway lite" position where there's free trade of goods, but...
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    Would you change your referendum vote?

    The economic impact wasn't ever likely to be instantaneous, though. The key questions for economic growth in the short/medium term are; - What happens to business investment; to what extent will businesses (including UK- but mostly foreign-owned) hold off (in the short term) or cancel...
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    Should the Labour Party only represent Labour Members ?

    I'm afraid I saw it on twitter so don't know all of the details. I assume it's just a poll of the members of the Bow Group, who describe themselves as 'centre-right'. So Leadsom & Fox almost certainly don't have that level of support across the party as a whole; but I do think there's the...
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    Should the Labour Party only represent Labour Members ?

    But the problem is that the members are a very select subgroup of the people that voted for the party at the last GE (or an even more select subgroup of the people that are represented by a Labour MP). With membership levels generally on a downward trend, this is only going to get worse. The...
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    Poll – Which way did you vote and do you want free movement of people

    There is one possible alternative, which was raised by the deputy leader of the German CDU this morning - the idea that we can have free trade (including passporting, so more or less single market membership), with some limits on migration, if we are willing to pay more into the EU. Not sure how...
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    [Politics] Brexit

    Thinking about leaving
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    [Politics] Brexit

    True - but what prospects are there for UKIP to exist as anything other than a protest party? There would need to be a complete change in the party, including who it's elected representatives are, their key message (i.e. a move beyond populism), their branding, the whole shooting match. A...
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    [Politics] Brexit

    I struggle to reconcile this with the suggestion that the EU has changed beyond all recognition since our last referendum in 1973. How has it done that without reform? Do you in fact mean that it's never retreated from closer integration? That's not the same thing. You might well be right that...
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    [Politics] Brexit

    For once, I actually partly agree with you, or at least the spirit of what you say. From both campaigns there's been huge amounts of ridiculous finger pointing and back-and-forth claim and counter claim "You're lying" "No we're not, you are" "Jo Cox was murdered for her beliefs" "Jo Cox wasn't...
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    [Politics] Brexit

    The population engaging in 'critical thinking' is great, and is precisely what we should want - an informed populace making decisions based on evidence. I don't think that's what we've had in this referendum. I think you might be right that Remain have placed too much stock in 'experts', in the...
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    The best bit of transfer business ever.

    There was also that winger that we signed in the summer about ten years back, was brilliant for us until January and then we flogged him to Ipswich for £250,000. Darren Currie, was it?
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    Farage angling for a spot in a right wing Tory government...

    Your argument only holds up if you ignore the last paragraph of that article. There's a fundamental difference between forecasting what will happen next quarter/year and scenario modelling ("what is the impact if...").
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    [Politics] Brexit

    There's a clear gap between the majority of people voting to leave and the politicians that are likely to gain power off the back of it though. Do you trust Johnson, Gove, Patel et al to deliver less immigration, capital controls, etc. that would be required to reverse the trends of...

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