Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
10 Labour MPs have said they are Leave, 218 have said Remain. Is 10 enough do you reckon?
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10 Labour MPs have said they are Leave, 218 have said Remain. Is 10 enough do you reckon?
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
In fact, as of yesterday our elected members were thus:
TORY REMAIN - 170, LEAVE - 131
LABOUR REMAIN - 218, LEAVE - 10
SNP REMAIN - 54, LEAVE - 0
LIBS REMAIN - 8, LEAVE - 0
TOTAL (including others, but does not include those undeclared)
REMAIN MPs - 462
LEAVE MPs - 150
TORY REMAIN - 170, LEAVE - 131
LABOUR REMAIN - 218, LEAVE - 10
SNP REMAIN - 54, LEAVE - 0
LIBS REMAIN - 8, LEAVE - 0
TOTAL (including others, but does not include those undeclared)
REMAIN MPs - 462
LEAVE MPs - 150
- Jul 10, 2003
- 27,776
So, of the people who will gain all this power when we leave, three quarters, across all parties, still think it's a bad idea ?
And this is the parliament that will be deciding our post-EU future. Given the dominance of the Remain camp, I fully expect to see us signed up to the EEA, with all that entails - contributions to EU budget and free migration. I'd also expect us to enshrine various aspects of EU law into English law as well.
There's not going to be much visible difference for quite some time
- Jul 10, 2003
- 27,776
So why do you think that they don't want all these extra powers that you want to give them ?
£100bn has already been taken out of the UK, and Brexit hasn't even ****ing happened yet!
Just the potential of Brexit has caused our markets to have a massive wobble.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...rds-6000-and-pound-falls-as-brexit-fears-dri/
^^^ This isn't scaremongering. This isn't "what ifs" and economic guesswork. This is what is actually happening right now.
£100bn has already been taken out of the UK, and Brexit hasn't even ****ing happened yet!
Just the potential of Brexit has caused our markets to have a massive wobble.
Sorry, I meant that there's going to be no visible difference to our law-making, migration policy, security controls etc
There's clearly going to be a short-term economic disruption
It's highly unlikely to be short term. At what point are people going to acknowledge that maybe 100s and 100s of economic experts might have a clue what they're on about?!
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
- Jun 9, 2015
- 10,568
When they completely ignore their track record?
https://next.ft.com/content/14e323ee-e602-11e3-aeef-00144feabdc0#axzz33EAHFQqf
Grombleton
Surrounded by <div>s
- Dec 31, 2011
- 7,356
It's ok, we'll be propped up by the savings we make by not being in the EU. you know, the same ones that have also been earmarked for the NHS, fishing and anything else that Leave have claimed.
Brilliant argument.
They've been wrong before so they must be wrong now.
I must remember to always ignore experts.
Neville's Breakfast
Well-known member
no, don't ignore them. Just don't believe them unconditionally because it suits your personal narrative.
sten_super
Brain Surgeon
Your argument only holds up if you ignore the last paragraph of that article. There's a fundamental difference between forecasting what will happen next quarter/year and scenario modelling ("what is the impact if...").
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
A pub bore as well as a pub enthusiast ?
Billy the Fish
Technocrat
£100bn has already been taken out of the UK, and Brexit hasn't even ****ing happened yet!
Just the potential of Brexit has caused our markets to have a massive wobble.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...rds-6000-and-pound-falls-as-brexit-fears-dri/
^^^ This isn't scaremongering. This isn't "what ifs" and economic guesswork. This is what is actually happening right now.
We are slaves to the stock market. The markets wobble if the US President farts in a way they weren't expecting. They always recover.
I think most on the leave side understand there will be some short term pain, but believe breaking the EU shackles week benefit us in the long term
- Jan 3, 2012
- 17,355
I thought we didn't do Thumbs Down anymore. This appeared s I was attempting to do a thumbs up, so if they register as being from me, herr TT, i wish to disassociate myself from them totally. I really do fear this prospect.
Your ability to sidestep resounding, unprecedented and overwhelming economic consensus is truly an impressive feat of mental gymnastics.
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
- 28,273
If the vote for Brexit wins then Nige does not have a job anymore.... I'm sure that he can be persuaded to bring his unique talents to another party with the right offer, remember how he regained control of UKIP despite standing down...