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  1. BenGarfield

    [Politics] Next leader of the Labour party

    wow - its that simple - whod have thought it
  2. BenGarfield

    [Politics] Next leader of the Labour party

    Billy Watson
  3. BenGarfield

    [Politics] Next leader of the Labour party

    So who is doing the defining of what is the centre ,right and left. The Overton window has shifted so much to the right since Thatcher that what was once mainstream Labour and Tory policy is now regarded as hard left, so a person like me was taunted for being on the soft liberal centre left is...
  4. BenGarfield

    [Politics] Next leader of the Labour party

    My god thats eery do you think we are the same person - although probably not - I suspect JRG may not know about Gulls Eye, what the original Chicken Run was or who Lenny Rider was/is.
  5. BenGarfield

    [Politics] Next leader of the Labour party

    Its a fab message board full of fab comments from fab people like yourself! im sorry ive not started a topic Ill try and do better in future
  6. BenGarfield

    [Politics] Next leader of the Labour party

    What is this fixation with momentum - weird. I doubt if he is a momentum supporter just an ordinarly left wing socialist within the labour party which was founded to be just that. It is the blairites who are the infiltrators, right wing Trotskyites if you like. There are perfectly good...
  7. BenGarfield

    [Politics] The General Election Thread

    Yeah, that was my impression at the time but the memory fades. Militant was certainly exremely well organised and active in the Trade Unions as far as I remember
  8. BenGarfield

    [Politics] The General Election Thread

    Because its not like the eighties and momentum is nothing like militant - perhaps? Momentum is but a small part of Labour and not particularly hard left either from what I can gather. They are not fanatics. This is bonkers - most left wingers are just ordinary workers who want a more decent and...
  9. BenGarfield

    [Politics] Next leader of the Labour party

    There might be in Scotland though, because once the SNP has achieved its ambition of a self governing country in theory politics can develop as it has in Ireland the SNP may split into different factions to the left and right.
  10. BenGarfield

    [Politics] Next leader of the Labour party

    Pretty much agree but wasnt he trying to follow party policy over Brexit even though he didnt agree himslf? Also he didnt face off the accusations of anti-semitism nonsense directly. Now his now longer a threat, I dont suppose we`ll hear a whisper about this from anyone.
  11. BenGarfield

    [Politics] Next leader of the Labour party

    Including anyone then that supports American/UK foreign policy then which actively arms the Saudi regime, terrorsm in Yemen, and funds trains Al-Quaida I suppose?
  12. BenGarfield

    [Politics] The General Election Thread

    Look what is this "Momentum" running the party - do you mean anyone to the left of Tonly Blair? I doubt if the majority of left wing labour members have anything to do with Momentum. Many of them, ordinary long standing socialists and trade unionists returned to the Labour Party when Corbyn...
  13. BenGarfield

    [Politics] The General Election Thread

    Absolutely - I dont dispute that, but the OP was critising the Labour Party for electing leaders who will carry out their policies rather than those of the establishment. Its then up to the Labour Party to promote its historically soft left policies. Its difficult for them because the entire...
  14. BenGarfield

    [Politics] The General Election Thread

    I`m no defender of everything that Maduro has done, but I think he did win an election, unlike that bogus chap the Yanks tried to install claiming him to be the new leader.
  15. BenGarfield

    [Politics] The General Election Thread

    So the political systems developed in the successful nordic countries are based on "student" politics?
  16. BenGarfield

    [Politics] The General Election Thread

    So how do you think democracy should work? Or do you favour benign dictatorships?
  17. BenGarfield

    [Politics] The General Election Thread

    Look, I dont even vote labour, because their policies are not radical enough for me, but opinion poll evidence shows their policies were popular, although I agree Corbyn, and their Brexit policies were clearly not popular which swung the vote
  18. BenGarfield

    [Politics] The General Election Thread

    So then they should develop unpopular policies, or abandon socialism, give up maybe? What do you suggest? Labours policies were just mainstream democratic socialist ones not at all extreme historically in this country, and commonplace elsewhere in other countries. And why were you scared of...
  19. BenGarfield

    [Politics] The General Election Thread

    What! it isnt exactly your point but completely the reverse. These "soft" left policies, not at all extreme (standard in many other countries) are" extremely" popular.
  20. BenGarfield

    [Politics] The General Election Thread

    Oh dear, this bloody democracy is so annoying isnt it, what with all these upstart labour members deciding on policy and then voting for leaders who will actually implement them.

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