Problem is, it looks like now there are.There are no shortcuts.
Problem is, it looks like now there are.There are no shortcuts.
Problem is, it looks like now there are.
Packets of crisps, an ice cream when the van came round, and Mars bars. Not forgetting the bag of chips with bits.
Sorry but that’s a desperately misinformed view. These drugs are legitimately on sale online and that’s how the majority are purchased as the NHS is able to fund only chronically obese patients.No. Boots and Asda in the UK can sell only substances that are approved as 'over the counter' non prescription items, and most of these are either long established things like aspirin, or are classed as dietary supplements, not medicines.
Without checking I am not sure how these weight loss items are classed. If they are injectables they they will definitely not be on legal sale over the internet.
Yes, there are shortcuts. GLP1 enablers like the drugs being discussed here help to provide the hormone that gives the user a sense of fullness after eating. It’s a hormone that’s largely absent or depleted in people with eating disorders and obesity.Exactly.
Diet as in calorific intake is everything. To lose weight, people have to go through the discomfort/anguish of days/weeks/months where intake is lower energy spent. Of likely feeling 'hungry' and not addressing that with food. There are no shortcuts.
Yes, there are shortcuts. GLP1 enablers like the drugs being discussed here help to provide the hormone that gives the user a sense of fullness after eating. It’s a hormone that’s largely absent or depleted in people with eating disorders and obesity.
I’ve said it several times but will say it again — these drugs will work only when combined with an improved eating and exercise regime. But crucially, they make it easier to undergo what you call the months of discomfort and anguish. Anything that reduces that has to be a good thing. On top of that, many people report additional benefits like a reduction in addictive behaviour, and alcohol and drug dependence.
It’s good to be wary of what the tabloids call 'miracle cures' but just occasionally there are genuine breakthroughs in medical science.
My two grew up in the 70s & 80s, and I found out they were spending their dinner money at the local chippy instead of paying for their lunches. They got a rocket from me!But remarkable as to why 70's kids were much slimmer than now in the main.
Guessing .... walking or cycling distances, playing sport with mates, food portions were smaller, a snack might be a single chocolate bar or small packet of crisps. We were comfortable for money, but rarely got take away food, fish n chips once a year if lucky on returning late from Cornwall each August. Pizza, KFC, McDonalds, Burger King didn't exist. There wasn't array of takeaways near the school gates. A Cadbury's Flake or packet of Golden Wonder for kids walking miles or playing football, is a universe away from today's camped out at McDonalds or the burger place.
I think they are a little better than that, it's a useful tool to reduce satiety and promote gluconeogenesis. The general target for these drugs will typically have comorbidities and often not live in ideal circumstances. Where care is more joined up, eg diabetes clinics, lifestyle and diet are also part of the therapy. I don't think these are extreme cases, Diabetes UK will tell you this is > 5.6M people. Losing body mass in t2DM will generally have beneficial impact on comorbidities like high BP, lipids, etc. Many millions more people when you include metabolic syndrome and NAFLD.They're a sticking plaster and unless the individual changes their lifestyle you're gonna need a lot of plasters.
Maybe for extreme cases these are a good idea with strict rules but giving them out like sweets is a bad really idea, I think Streeting gets this.
Mounjaro is weekly. I think the previous generation (Wegovy, Ozempic etc) were/are daily but that seems like a faff. There are plenty of reputable outlets including Boots and Asda. MedExpress was mentioned. I’m going to use Simple Online Pharmacy because my sister in law used them and recommends them. The price also seems lower than most. £130 for a month's supply (using their £10 off voucher code).
My two grew up in the 70s & 80s, and I found out they were spending their dinner money at the local chippy instead of paying for their lunches. They got a rocket from me!
Another generalisation, my grandchildren now late teens/20s don’t eat fast food, learning how to cook properly before going to uni. Visiting my granddaughter, I was impressed at the amount of fresh vegs she bought at her local supermarket.
Happy to stand correct.Sorry but that’s a desperately misinformed view. These drugs are legitimately on sale online and that’s how the majority are purchased as the NHS is able to fund only chronically obese patients.
In addition, according to the BHF Wegovy is (it seems to me) not legally available online. Read here:Sorry but that’s a desperately misinformed view. These drugs are legitimately on sale online and that’s how the majority are purchased as the NHS is able to fund only chronically obese patients.
I am Mrs Punal. I have been on Mounjaro since April and have lost almost four stone. The biggest thing for me besides the loss in lbs is how my self esteem has risen. I am seventy and needed like you to do something and was totally overwhelmed by the amount I needed to lose. Some things you need to be aware of: There are side effects and a typical one is feeling sick. Luckily I haven’t really suffered from any but do know some people have needed to give up because it was so bad.I know there's a general weight loss thread somewhere but I'm particularly interested in whether anyone has had experience of weight loss jabs like Mounjaro, Ozempic, Wegovy etc?
My wife's sister started using Mounjaro about a month ago and says it's done her a lot of good by reducing her appetite. She's lost about 10ibs in a month. I've struggled with my weight for decades. It's not a critical problem but now that I'm into my late 60s I'm much more conscious of the health risks. I've tried all the usual diets/eating regimes and they always work for a while then tail off and my motivation drops. I could do with losing about 35lbs. I do exercise regularly (if moderately) but would like some extra help. I've read a lot about the weight loss jabs which at first I dismissed as gimmicky but it seems they really can work. Though reading Facebook groups, Reddit etc it seems that success is a bit patchy.
I wouldn't be eligible for NHS assistance, I don't think, so I'm looking at about £130-£150 a month. So before I shell out, I was just curious about whether the NSC hive mind has an opinion, preferably based on actual experience.
If I can say this as politely as possible, I'd really appreciate not being told to just eat less and exercise more. Been there, done that, with some success but not enough. Thank you.
I am Mrs Punal. I have been on Mounjaro since April and have lost almost four stone. The biggest thing for me besides the loss in lbs is how my self esteem has risen. I am seventy and needed like you to do something and was totally overwhelmed by the amount I needed to lose. Some things you need to be aware of: There are side effects and a typical one is feeling sick. Luckily I haven’t really suffered from any but do know some people have needed to give up because it was so bad.
To start with you would be on a low dose which you inject weekly for four weeks. The next four week cycle the dose increases and this carries on until you are on the highest dose. Lucky you if you can get it so cheap. Beware of unscrupulous people selling online. I am now on the highest dose and it costs me £250 a month. To me worth every penny. Not sure how differently it might affect a male but if you can afford to do it and feel it would set you on the right path go for it. Hope this helps.
No. Boots and Asda in the UK can sell only substances that are approved as 'over the counter' non prescription items, and most of these are either long established things like aspirin, or are classed as dietary supplements, not medicines.
Without checking I am not sure how these weight loss items are classed. If they are injectables they they will definitely not be on legal sale over the internet.
In addition, according to the BHF Wegovy is (it seems to me) not legally available online. Read here:
Wegovy: what you need to know about the weight loss injection
Find out how the weight loss medication semaglutide (better known as Wegovy) works, how effective it is, the side effects, and how to get it on the NHS.www.bhf.org.uk
And yet, as you correctly state, it is available online.
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Well....your call, and very best wishes.
No, you are quite correct.That is wrong
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Unless you really think Boots and Superdrug are going to sell illegal drugs?
Unregulated food production. Bread full of sugar, emulsifiers and additives, see cereals, cakes, biscuits, tinned baked beans, tinned fruit etc etcMeanwhile, the facts:
In 1980, 8% of women and 6% of men in England were obese.
In 1974 8% of children were overweight.
In 2022 to 2023 26.2% of adults were estimated to be living with obesity.
27% of children are now overweight.
Sauces: UCL, BMJ & NAO.
What's your explanation for this crisis?