[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

[raymondo]

from BBC live news thread...

Ukraine-Russia war: Kremlin says Biden throwing 'oil on fire' by allowing Ukraine to use US missiles inside Russia

The decision by President Biden will allow Ukraine to fire into Russia using US long-range missiles it's had for more than a year.

www.bbc.co.uk

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Indeed. France is way behind,and some of their cosmetic/ fashion companies were VERY slow to pull out of Russia, if indeed they have fully.
Nice words from Macron but far less action.

 

[Crawley Dingo]

The rules for conflict were created in 1949 at the Geneva convention, weren't they? Om which case surely the Allies can't have committed war crimes before then, because they didn't exist.

The rules of conflict were first settled in 1871 with the Washington settlement after Britain breached neutrality in the US civil war by selling ironclads to the confederacy, this was an international panel including Brazilians and Swiss etc as neutrals as the UK and US didn't much like each other back then.
It became a blueprint for future conflicts and developed basic rights like the treatment of POWs, this then grew via other international agencies like the league of nations until being codified in war rights law in 1949. It has been expanded since then to include other offences like rape.

This gives a partial view of events based on the legal action after the UK built ship CSS Alabama shelled the Union merchant navy.

Alabama Claims - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[raymondo]

Sky News digest - a few points:

Trump Jnr kicking off.
Big step to WW3, danger, provocation etc - various Russians.
Freezing conflict along current lines unacceptable - Peskov.
Some ambiguity from France over deployment of missiles - may be deliberate?

Ukraine war latest: Kremlin offers first response after Biden allows Ukraine to use US missiles inside Russia

Joe Biden has allowed Ukraine to strike inside Russia with long-range US missiles, prompting dire warnings from Moscow. Meanwhile, 11 people have been killed after major attacks in the Ukrainian city of Sumy.

news.sky.com

It drives me mad that Russia commits war crimes DAILY against Ukraine, killing civilians and destroying civilian energy infrastructure and hospitals deliberately... and yet mainstream media do not call it out as WAR CRIMES daily.
Then there's an adjustment in targetting policy, still restricted to defending Kursk positions mainly, IIUC, and it's ESCALATION! everywhere.
Drives me flipping mad.

And as for Daddy Trump's little boy, let's hope daddy has a better understanding that it's a good thing to save some lives of Ukrainian civilians and military on a DAILY basis rather than wait for daddy's magic solution on Jan 21st.
Rant over.

 

[peterward]

from BBC live news thread...

Ukraine-Russia war: Kremlin says Biden throwing 'oil on fire' by allowing Ukraine to use US missiles inside Russia

The decision by President Biden will allow Ukraine to fire into Russia using US long-range missiles it's had for more than a year.

www.bbc.co.uk

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And theres over $300 billion of Russian money frozen in EU.

Not only should that be given to Ukraine, doing so and signalling it will be used to buy 3x more weapons than have already been supplied may just alter the calculus in the Kremlin.

 

[Eric the meek]

This could be something or could be nothing.

We've seen that the central bank of Russia has been supporting the ruble to be above 1 cent.

But in today's graph, the ruble fell below one cent at 13.00, and at the time of writing, 14:06, there has been no discernible rise in its value, indicating that the central bank has not reacted. Perhaps it doesn't have any money to do it any longer.

Russian Ruble to US Dollar Exchange Rate Chart | Xe

RUB to USD currency chart. XE’s free live currency conversion chart for Russian Ruble to US Dollar allows you to pair exchange rate history for up to 10 years.

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Edit: Did I speak too soon? Looks like they found some reserves down the back of the sofa.