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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)



raymondo

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Here's an indication of the amount of military materiel sent to Ukraine from the US as of end October 2024. I haven't got time to summarize, but plenty of detail listed in there on air defense systems etc.
I know that some European countries have also supplied air defense systems, but I can't find a summary, sorry. From memory, UK, Germany, Poland, Romania, Netherlands have supplied.


Also, @crookie , I just emailed the Spanish embassy to ask if they've provided any air defense systems. I'll let you know when I get their reply 😉.
 
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Eric the meek

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Several people have mentioned the hypocrisy of the Russians, and how infuriating it is. Just one example is their outrage at having to face long range weapons, and making various threats and vows in response, when they are flattening and laying waste to Ukrainian settlements on a daily basis.

I remember the interview with John Lough of Chatham House. He said that Putin had done a good job of scaring the west.
 




raymondo

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Apr 26, 2017
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Are you channeling your inner Russian? I would have labelled it 'user error' myself ;)
I'm not trying to defend the latest clusterf##k of announcements and restrictions by the US...just trying to throw some light on which countries have provided how much air defense to Ukraine. I can't find a simple summary and have given up trying.
Air defense is such a key part and the allies could have done more, and faster.

Anyhow, I'm mainly waiting to hear that the Russians and North Koreans have started to fight each other...that would cheer us up.

On a more positive note, as Paul Warburg said (was it him 😬), even if Ukraine has restrictions on use of ATACMS etc, as their usage unfolds, Russia may take their eye off the ball of defending deeper bases, refineries etc, thus allowing Ukraine's long range drones to boldly go where the USS Enterprise won't!

And I'm hoping all this shenanigans buys time for Ukraine to finish development of their own long range missiles...👍

Too much blah blah from me today 🤦🏼‍♂️
Lots about Ukraine on mainstream TV news today...of course it's G20, 1000 days, Odessa strikes, Trump's arsehole son etc. It's important to have the coverage but it just highlights the West's problem of coordinating effective response,- it makes chez Raymondo a very angry household 🙁.
 


Hugo Rune

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Incredibly brave to do this:

Shklyarov condemned Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine in a now-deleted Instagram post from March 2022, declaring his opposition to “all kinds of military actions.”

Unfortunately, the famous former ballet dancer paid the price in typical Putin style. RIP.


 


Sirnormangall

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Sep 21, 2017
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Here's an indication of the amount of military materiel sent to Ukraine from the US as of end October 2024. I haven't got time to summarize, but plenty of detail listed in there on air defense systems etc.
I know that some European countries have also supplied air defense systems, but I can't find a summary, sorry. From memory, UK, Germany, Poland, Romania, Netherlands have supplied.


Also, @crookie , I just emailed the Spanish embassy to ask if they've provided any air defense systems. I'll let you know when I get their reply 😉.
Yes, where do countries like Spain, Italy and others sit in the league table of support for Ukraine? Unless they ramp up their support vocally and practically it simply adds weight to Trump’s view that Europe /Nato isn’t pulling its weight
 




peterward

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