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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)
- Thread starter vegster
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- Jan 18, 2009
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Reeves could spend a gazillion on defence but unlike the Ukrainians who are still blood and soil patriots, the same cannot be said about this country.
Just 4 in 10 Young Britons Proud to Be British, Only 11% Would Fight for It, The Times/YouGov Poll Finds
The Times and YouGov study reveals that only 41% of Britons aged 18 to 27 take pride in being British—less than half the figure recorded in similar research two
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I have no doubt these findings echo the state of the U.K. youth and even wider views pre Gen Z generations. We’d be better off stepping back from interfering in international affairs and de arming. Let those who want to fight for Ukraine or Palestine do so.
Even more scary is the Yanks that actually leave their home shores are supposed to be the more enlightened ones!
fly high
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Sadly it seems the findings may well be right. Couple of years ago a young chap who lives opposite had ambitions to join the military. We recently asked him how that was going, told us he didn't think this country is worth fighting forReeves could spend a gazillion on defence but unlike the Ukrainians who are still blood and soil patriots, the same cannot be said about this country.
Just 4 in 10 Young Britons Proud to Be British, Only 11% Would Fight for It, The Times/YouGov Poll Finds
The Times and YouGov study reveals that only 41% of Britons aged 18 to 27 take pride in being British—less than half the figure recorded in similar research twosearch.app
I have no doubt these findings echo the state of the U.K. youth and even wider views pre Gen Z generations. We’d be better off stepping back from interfering in international affairs and de arming. Let those who want to fight for Ukraine or Palestine do so.
- Aug 24, 2020
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I don't think you're going to get many on here agreeing to that.Reeves could spend a gazillion on defence but unlike the Ukrainians who are still blood and soil patriots, the same cannot be said about this country.
Just 4 in 10 Young Britons Proud to Be British, Only 11% Would Fight for It, The Times/YouGov Poll Finds
The Times and YouGov study reveals that only 41% of Britons aged 18 to 27 take pride in being British—less than half the figure recorded in similar research twosearch.app
I have no doubt these findings echo the state of the U.K. youth and even wider views pre Gen Z generations. We’d be better off stepping back from interfering in international affairs and de arming. Let those who want to fight for Ukraine or Palestine do so.
But the best of luck in your future trolling career on this thread
papachris
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The response from the Estonian government to Trump
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MP: Trump-Putin conversation reminiscent of 1938 Munich Agreement
The plan by U.S. President Donald Trump and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth to begin negotiations with Russia – and announce preconditions – is not only harmful to Ukraine but to all of Europe, said the Chairman of the Riigikogu's Foreign Affairs Committee Marko Mihkelson (Reform).
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- Aug 24, 2020
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A comprehensive BBC article on developments:
TLDR: There's a divergence of Ukraine/EU/UK/Nato opinion and what they think across the pond.
TLDR: There's a divergence of Ukraine/EU/UK/Nato opinion and what they think across the pond.
No talks about Ukraine without Ukraine, UK defence secretary says - live updates
Defence Secretary John Healey's comments come as US Defence Secretary Pete Hegseth says Trump's attempt to seek peace is "not a betrayal".
www.bbc.co.uk
papachris
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Good to see the UK is still firmly behind UkraineA comprehensive BBC article on developments:
TLDR: There's a divergence of Ukraine/EU/UK/Nato opinion and what they think across the pond.
No talks about Ukraine without Ukraine, UK defence secretary says - live updates
Defence Secretary John Healey's comments come as US Defence Secretary Pete Hegseth says Trump's attempt to seek peace is "not a betrayal".www.bbc.co.uk
- Aug 24, 2020
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China has offered to host a US-Russia summit without Ukraine, and is reported willing to sending peacekeeping troops to the region.
The US has said 'no'.
The US has said 'no'.
Maybe Europe...but Crimea?? no chance
He'll ask Musk to move it nearer the equator to conquer it, then move it back to the Arctic to make it a bigger prize.
Funny accents Lancastrians
He ignores it, you are right... therefore sortedI thought he already had..........
It's fast moving, at least US said no to that.
Watch out Trump...if you're in Putin's pocket, then you're really in Xi's pocket
Nobby
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- Sep 29, 2007
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Putin will continue to have Trump tied up in knots and wrapped around his little pinky.
Don't get me wrong, I hate Putin and Trump in equal measure but Putin is a smart, savvy psychopath whilst Trump has to be the thickest, dumbest leader on the planet.
This does not bode well.
Although if the balloon does go up. Trump now has a vast army of exploding paper straws he can immediately deploy. Did I mention Trump was thick and dumb?
Don't get me wrong, I hate Putin and Trump in equal measure but Putin is a smart, savvy psychopath whilst Trump has to be the thickest, dumbest leader on the planet.
This does not bode well.
Although if the balloon does go up. Trump now has a vast army of exploding paper straws he can immediately deploy. Did I mention Trump was thick and dumb?
- Aug 24, 2020
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7.30am - 94 Rubles to the dollar.
7.50am - 90.68.
7.50am - 90.68.
- Aug 24, 2020
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Sorry, that may have been a bit misleading. The post from Nexta says 'in recent weeks', so the offer may have come several weeks ago.
It could even have been made in good faith, with the Chinese having the best of intentions and just wanting peace. Well, either that, or they're eyeing up those rare earths...
- Jan 18, 2009
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Polls are Polls so are purely indicative. However we’re probably approaching 20% of the population being foreign born, and if you chuck in another 20% 1st or 2nd generation of foreign born parents who are historically unattached to the U.K. in a positive way there’s 40% are not proud to be British.Sadly it seems the findings may well be right. Couple of years ago a young chap who lives opposite had ambitions to join the military. We recently asked him how that was going, told us he didn't think this country is worth fighting for
For the “native” population the question is what and who are you fighting (and dying for). It’s understandable in such a fractured country with different identities that there isn’t much to coalesce that sense of sacrifice around. I’m surprised the % willing to fight is as high as 11%.
If the poll is even half right the writing is on the wall. Better to step back from security council and interfering in top table politics than keep bluffing.