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[Food] Lose 7lbs in January



Swimboy64

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This is the key. Crash loss rarely works long term 👍
Absolutely Dazzer I’ve been doing a bit of research and most of the “experts”in the field seem to say 1lb a week is best if you want long term without putting back on
Has anyone had any experience of rapid loss and then piled back on?
 




dazzer6666

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Absolutely Dazzer I’ve been doing a bit of research and most of the “experts”in the field seem to say 1lb a week is best if you want long term without putting back on
Has anyone had any experience of rapid loss and then piled back on?
My old boss used to do it EVERY January….it became a standing joke. He’d spend Jan and some of Feb on something called ‘Lighter life’ or similar (800kcal a day), lose 2 stone, rave about how great it was and then be back to his old weight and some by the end of March and eating six-packs of chocolate mini-rolls for breakfast 🤣

I used to be close to 18st, it took me probably 4-5 years to get down to 12.5st (through exercise, not diet mostly but plateaud there as I have always been bad at controlling intake - kind of found a balance that let me get away with it but it means 5-6 hours of fairly serious exercise a week). Checked my app today and I’m 0.4kg heavier than I was in Feb 2018 (but I’d like to be at least 5-6kg lower)
 


kelvinnewman

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Absolutely Dazzer I’ve been doing a bit of research and most of the “experts”in the field seem to say 1lb a week is best if you want long term without putting back on
Has anyone had any experience of rapid loss and then piled back on?
I think it depends - I went from 91kg to 62kg from October 2019 - July 2020, slowly crept back up to 90+ over four years, might it have stayed off if I'd lost it slower? maybe?


I think a lot depends on how much you've got to lose, the reason you put it on in the first place, external stress and triggers etc . That's before you get into anything like metabolism/pyschology you have around food.


Losing the weight and keeping it off is about forming good habbits that ideally replace bad habbits. How long you keep those up for dictates if it stays off. I mostly kept my good routines around exercise, fell off majorly on the food side of things and when work/life gave me some good excuses for the exercise to slip as well. If losing it quickly relies on something you can't sustain for more than a couple of weeks then you've got a problem.


But when I started seriously again Summer last year soon got back into the swing of things.
 


Greg Bobkin

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My old boss used to do it EVERY January….it became a standing joke. He’d spend Jan and some of Feb on something called ‘Lighter life’ or similar (800kcal a day), lose 2 stone, rave about how great it was and then be back to his old weight and some by the end of March and eating six-packs of chocolate mini-rolls for breakfast 🤣

I used to be close to 18st, it took me probably 4-5 years to get down to 12.5st (through exercise, not diet mostly but plateaud there as I have always been bad at controlling intake - kind of found a balance that let me get away with it but it means 5-6 hours of fairly serious exercise a week). Checked my app today and I’m 0.4kg heavier than I was in Feb 2018 (but I’d like to be at least 5-6kg lower)
That always makes me laugh with things like the Cambridge Diet: don't eat – lose weight; start re-introducing food – put weight back on! And people seem surprised when it happens.

Eat less, move more. It often as simple as that...
 


dazzer6666

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That always makes me laugh with things like the Cambridge Diet: don't eat – lose weight; start re-introducing food – put weight back on! And people seem surprised when it happens.

Eat less, move more. It often as simple as that...
Pretty much. Every plan, fad and latest thing all boil down to reducing calorie intake. Need to burn more off than you take on (doing a marathon just about allows you to refuel with an XL pizza 🤣)
 




Brian Fantana

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The challenge for me is going to be maintaining this calorie level in the medium-long term. I've not gone down to such a daft level that I'm not able to eat, I'm hovering around 2000/day, which seems reasonable right now. It certainly means that most foods aren't off the literal table, providing some planning has gone into other meals.
 


Pogue Mahone

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I think it depends - I went from 91kg to 62kg from October 2019 - July 2020, slowly crept back up to 90+ over four years, might it have stayed off if I'd lost it slower? maybe?


I think a lot depends on how much you've got to lose, the reason you put it on in the first place, external stress and triggers etc . That's before you get into anything like metabolism/pyschology you have around food.


Losing the weight and keeping it off is about forming good habbits that ideally replace bad habbits. How long you keep those up for dictates if it stays off. I mostly kept my good routines around exercise, fell off majorly on the food side of things and when work/life gave me some good excuses for the exercise to slip as well. If losing it quickly relies on something you can't sustain for more than a couple of weeks then you've got a problem.


But when I started seriously again Summer last year soon got back into the swing of things.
Yep. I’ve been fairly stable for about a decade but last year my habits changed for the worse.

I am determined to get back to full fitness and have made a good start - but still have some way to go…
 






Doonhamer7

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There was a great TV programme on Channel 4 last night.


Basically the method is to manage your food intake to not get glucose spikes. These are her ten hacks.
I watched her video on Diary of a CEO

I follow the first 4 points of her method and it’s working for me. 1) vinegar before main meal, 2) eat fibre (raw of home pickled veg) before meal, 3) dont normally have breakfast but if I do it’s protein (eggs etc) not carb led 4) eat veg, then protein and if I have it carb last. Since following this and massive carb / sugar reduction I have no real hunger pangs during the day or evening, sleep better and don’t feel tired. I use olives, pickles, mange tout, peppers and nuts as snacks.
 




zefarelly

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That always makes me laugh with things like the Cambridge Diet: don't eat – lose weight; start re-introducing food – put weight back on! And people seem surprised when it happens.

Eat less, move more. It often as simple as that...
The problem with moving more is muscle is denser than fat.

I think this may be linked to why people who are obsessed with being 'ripped' are a bit limited.
 






Couldn't Be Hyypia

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Watched these 3 lectures last night by Dr Chris Van Tulleken. Third one is about food and UPFs. Series aimed at kids but enjoyed all 3 as knew next to nothing about the overall biology of the eating process
His book, Ultra Processed People, is fascinating.
 


dazzer6666

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The challenge for me is going to be maintaining this calorie level in the medium-long term. I've not gone down to such a daft level that I'm not able to eat, I'm hovering around 2000/day, which seems reasonable right now. It certainly means that most foods aren't off the literal table, providing some planning has gone into other meals.
2000 should be about right for an ‘average’ man…….I know my BMR (basic metabolic rate) is around 1600, so add say 400 kcal of exercise a day (not far off the recommended 10k steps) and things should be in equilibrium (and can obviously average over a period).
 






The Lemming Stomper

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First weigh in since 1st this morning...

108.7 kg down from 112.8 so in 8 days lost 4.1 kg ( 9 lbs )

A lot of water I guess tho am in ketosis after getting some new test strips...

I appreciate the rapid loss approach frowned upon but I'm never going to lose it having 'one less slice of toast' etc...

I just have to try to eat healthy when I come off it in 4 or so months, this thread is great for support much appreciated (y)
 


dazzer6666

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First weigh in since 1st this morning...

108.7 kg down from 112.8 so in 8 days lost 4.1 kg ( 9 lbs )

A lot of water I guess tho am in ketosis after getting some new test strips...

I appreciate the rapid loss approach frowned upon but I'm never going to lose it having 'one less slice of toast' etc...

I just have to try to eat healthy when I come off it in 4 or so months, this thread is great for support much appreciated (y)
Not necessarily frowned upon……quite likely initial weight loss will be significant before it settles down a bit. Great effort
 


Greg Bobkin

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May 22, 2012
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The problem with moving more is muscle is denser than fat.

I think this may be linked to why people who are obsessed with being 'ripped' are a bit limited.
Yes, but then that gets into the whole debate about actual weight versus the level of health/appearance of your body. Which is something I'm not about to get into because I know very little about it...

But, suffice to say, if someone was 15st with a belly, they would most likely happily swap that for being 15st without a belly, but more muscle in its place. IMO, like.
 






Falmer Flutter ©

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That always makes me laugh with things like the Cambridge Diet: don't eat – lose weight; start re-introducing food – put weight back on! And people seem surprised when it happens.

Eat less, move more. It often as simple as that...
I used to work for a magazine publisher that produced the customer mag for Lighter Life. Recipes, psychology, fitness, stuff like that. The bosses used to come in every month for an editorial meeting. Everyone of them was a right fat bastard. Absolute con.
 


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