jonny.rainbow
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Could Paul Gascoigne be the much-needed replacement for Kalvin Phillips?
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Could Paul Gascoigne be the much-needed replacement for Kalvin Phillips?
clapham_gull
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HalfaSeatOn
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On the basis the Tory meltdown thread started 11 years in to their term, this thread is full of PE.
It’ll be interesting to see how quickly this one gets resolved, and how
beorhthelm
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410 odd MPs and Starmer is appointing Lords for ministers? is this lack of faith in the intake, or novel approach of using experienced people?
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Can't beat a bit of Jess
Very interesting.
He is a good man, I think. Invests a lot in employee welfare.
It may well be an inspired appointment.
pocketseagull
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It's also a way of packing the House of Lords with Labour appointees so serves two purposes.
Deportivo Seagull
I should coco
Perhaps you should vent your frustration at the Tories who‘ve had at least 6 years to fix, rather than new PM who is mostly still trying to work out how the oven works in number 10!
in all honesty anything written on a fag packet would be better than the Tories.
clapham_gull
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The second.
With these two it looks like best people for the job.
Wasn't his brother a Tory MP ?
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Exactly.
I thought we voted that we’d had enough of experts in 2016? Then Boris proved all the scientists wrong during Covid (he almost died but those who seen him play tennis knew he’d pull through).
Why on earth are these people being put into the Lords?
Should be people like Charlotte Owen who have actually helped in government by making Boris tea and doing his photocopying.
pb21
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These look like two quite niche roles, so probably a bit of both, which doesn't seem unreasonable.
nevergoagain
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These Lords appointments, this means they can obviously sit in House of Lords and as above attend cabinet but they won't have any access to HoC ? and won't be eligible to vote at all ?. Has this happened much in previous regimes, not saying it's a bad thing at all, especially the likes of Vallance but neutrality questions I guess can/will be raised.
mejonaNO12 aka riskit
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I don't like this whole "lets appoint people with experience in the specific field to the head of govt".
It's much more fun when it's as before
"Good evening Janet"
"Hello Prime minister"
"Janet, you know what a huge fan I am of your work in the banking sector and your extensive work as a lecturer on economic analysis before becoming an MP. And it is that expertise that I want to use in my cabinet"
"Oh. This is such an honour, never did I dream of being The Chancell"
"Congratulations Janet. You are the new foreign secretary"
It's much more fun when it's as before
"Good evening Janet"
"Hello Prime minister"
"Janet, you know what a huge fan I am of your work in the banking sector and your extensive work as a lecturer on economic analysis before becoming an MP. And it is that expertise that I want to use in my cabinet"
"Oh. This is such an honour, never did I dream of being The Chancell"
"Congratulations Janet. You are the new foreign secretary"
100% this. If you’ve been to a good English school such as Eton then you should have the confidence to slot into any ministerial position.
Remember, the country voted against experts in 2016 and whilst all their predictions about Brexit have come to fruition, this country clearly affirmed and opinion was more important than a fact. Having a scientist as a minister splurging unwanted facts about in cabinet meetings when the public are hungry for unqualified opinions can only lead to one thing. More lockdowns.
It's great if it gets resolved, but if they agree on the same sort of deal that was offered before, it's pretty scummy behaviour by the BMA
First test of pre election promises of not folding to the unions as well.
Streeting comes across well, he seems to get the NHS can't be fixed by throwing more money at it alone
He told us he'd be dealing with that on "Day One".
It's one broken promise after another...
Labour’s Streeting Seeks to End Junior Doctor Strikes in England on ‘Day One’
Labour’s shadow health secretary, Wes Streeting, urged England’s junior doctors to cancel a round of strikes planned before the UK’s general election next month, and pledged to seek a compromise to end more than a year of industrial action from “day one” if his party wins the July 4 vote.
www.bloomberg.com