[Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

[de la zouch]

Levelling up was nonsense.

They've spunked huge amounts on a bowls club, skate park and park on wealthy West Hove seafront, a place so undeserving of levelling up that many of its residents tutted into their hummus at the plans. And where there was already a park, skate park and bowls club.

Meanwhile, actual shitholes were ignored to the point where their residents voted for those mad Nazis, Reform.

It was a flawed policy as there is a massive mistrust between central and local government, this was accentuated by political bias which led to the exact scenarios you have identified

 

[Zeberdi]

Interesting reading their housing plans. Not good news for the South Down and Worthing in particular. A return to shared housing targets effectively means everywhere (no matter how crowded already it is) has to contribute the same share as a % of their current housing. Sounds fair in theory but ignores the fact there is a lot more space further North.

It has also dropped levelling up from their housing policy title because this won't help. More and more houses will get poured into the South East, filling field after field because that is where house builders get more value.

Short sighted in my view. One of the few good things the Tories did was the levelling scheme. It was starting to work, certainly for the Midlands where house prices were catching up. To abandon that is a problem for protecting the South Downs and beyond.

This was discussed yesterday on the Labour Government 100 days thread (surely it’s a bit early to regard this as ’Labour in Meltdown’ - they’ve only been in power for 2 1/2 working days -). Boosting the construction industry (which took a massive hit during Covid) and investment in infrastructure needs to happen to create growth as much as anything else.

Housing is needed as a priority in crowded urban areas unless you are suggesting young people who have grown up/or moved to Brighton for work and are looking to get a foot on the housing ladder should move up North? Or perhaps, those with social needs or the elderly in Brighton & Hove should move up North because there is a crisis in Brighton & Hove of affordable housing provision? There are numerous brownfield sites (including development above shops) that can be used in our urban environments that are routinely dismissed because of the planning complications and clean ups required.

Targets will impact regions in different ways - here in Norfolk, we may have space but it is green belt land already being built on to the detriment of local wildlife (some of which is endemic or nationally rare). We already have 20,000 new homes being built over the next 5 years on greenbelt land but without the local infrastructure (ie doctors, dentists or schools) to support dormitory housing estates (which is what they are). We don’t have the public transport facilities you do in Brighton, nor access to emergency out of hours health care in the local area. One dentist practice for nearly 40,000 people and 2 doctor’s surgeries. People want to live in urban environments for a reason.

No one wants hundreds more homes going up in their neighbourhood but there is a crisis of housing availability in the Country especially for low cost affordable housing.

 

[Weststander]

Interesting reading their housing plans. Not good news for the South Down and Worthing in particular. A return to shared housing targets effectively means everywhere (no matter how crowded already it is) has to contribute the same share as a % of their current housing. Sounds fair in theory but ignores the fact there is a lot more space further North.

It has also dropped levelling up from their housing policy title because this won't help. More and more houses will get poured into the South East, filling field after field because that is where house builders get more value.

Short sighted in my view. One of the few good things the Tories did was the levelling scheme. It was starting to work, certainly for the Midlands where house prices were catching up. To abandon that is a problem for protecting the South Downs and beyond.

The south is where the housing crisis is most acute. If houses are built elsewhere, people would have to have very good reasons to move there other than shelter.

There’s no suggestion that SDNP chalkland will be built on.

House prices have risen through a lack of supply, not through failed levelling up. This expanded from London as people commute further and further.

Politicians made the off-the-radar and off-the-manifesto decision in 97 to rapidly expand the population, it’s 9m more as a result. Finally, 27 years on, reality and morality has hit home. 27 years of next to no strategic planning.

 

[Chicken Run]

Totally agree, we can build plenty of homes but none of them are affordable

Levelling up was nonsense.

They've spunked huge amounts on a bowls club, skate park and park on wealthy West Hove seafront, a place so undeserving of levelling up that many of its residents tutted into their hummus at the plans. And where there was already a park, skate park and bowls club.

Meanwhile, actual shitholes were ignored to the point where their residents voted for those mad Nazis, Reform.

Are you telling me that new two storey building on the Kingsway before Cockwater is an effing bowles club? If so did council funds contribute anything towards this?

 

[Giraffe]

So the housebuilding needed shouldn't happen near where you are, but should definitely happen somewhere else?

Yes exactly

 

[timbha]

Are you telling me that new two storey building on the Kingsway before Cockwater is an effing bowles club? If so did council funds contribute anything towards this?

The council diverted funding (provided by the Sackville developers) from areas originally allocated funding to West Hove seafront at late notice and allegedly without consultation.

 

[Giraffe]

This will be a battle. The previous Tory MP, Peter Bottomley (who I have no love for by the way!) fought strongly against building homes on this bit of land. I suspect the new Labour MP will not and this exactly the type of land that I suspect the new Labour planning rules will allow for building. It's not actually on the Downs but it certainly contributes to the general feeling of green space in that area. I have no skin in the game on this by the way as don't live in Worthing but I know plenty that do and don't want building there, not least because of the constant traffic problems.

Goring Gap under threat - again! - Transition Town Worthing

We have just heard that a local developer who has bought a parcel of land adjacent to the Persimmon land in Goring Gap has applied for a licence to sell alcohol on that land, building a new bar there , as a pre-cursor to building houses on it. You might like to attend the community protest that...

www.ttworthing.org

 

[Chicken Run]

The council diverted funding (provided by the Sackville developers) from areas originally allocated funding to West Hove seafront at late notice and allegedly without consultation.

What, the Council used public funds to contribute to the cost of a bowles club, why didn’t they go the whole hog and slap up a fancy Hove Yacht Club while their at it

 

[timbha]

What do the Council used public funds to contribute to the cost of a bowles club, why didn’t they go the whole hog and slap up a fancy Hove Yacht Club while their at it

Not sure. I doubt the funds would have been given to private enterprises

 

[Giraffe]

In fighting already.

Keir Starmer faces first rebellion as hard-Left Labour MPs move to humiliate him

The Prime Minister is less than a week into the job and already facing a revolt from the Left of the party.

www.express.co.uk

 

[nevergoagain]

In fighting already.

Keir Starmer faces first rebellion as hard-Left Labour MPs move to humiliate him

The Prime Minister is less than a week into the job and already facing a revolt from the Left of the party.

www.express.co.uk

I saw this and wondered where this might possibly fit with the "fully costed" numbers, that along with Tata Steel (if they put money into it), Junior Doctors pay dispute etc. might leave the wiggle room to do what they really want to.

 

[Weststander]

We had a medical emergency in the middle of last night. 999 said a 9.5 hour wait for an ambulence!

A long story, ended up driving to the RSCH. Taken straight to Resus round the back due to the circumstances.

The predictably usual scene, a war zone in terms of folk packed like sardines, alone 90 year olds parked on ambulance trollies in the corridors, insufficient numbers of consultants.

The bright spot … the amazing medical personnel.

(Hope this isn’t incorrect about the following places) it felt like the hospital conditions you’d expect to see in Cairo or Bucharest.

Thank fck another administration has got a chance to hugely improve on the above.

 

[Right Brain Ronnie]

In fighting already.

Keir Starmer faces first rebellion as hard-Left Labour MPs move to humiliate him

The Prime Minister is less than a week into the job and already facing a revolt from the Left of the party.

www.express.co.uk

All of those egos squeezed up on a bench not big enough, there will be so much kicking off, what has the tactical voter done?

 

[Zeberdi]

We had a medical emergency in the middle of last night. 999 said a 9.5 hour wait for an ambulence!

A long story, ended up driving to the RSCH. Taken straight to Resus round the back due to the circumstances.

Usual story, a war zone in terms of packed like sardines, alone 90 year old parked on ambulance trollies in the corridors, insufficient numbers of consultants.

The bright spot … the amazing medical personnel.

(Hope this isn’t incorrect about the following places) it felt like the hospital conditions you’d expect to see in Cairo or Bucharest.

Thank fck another administration has got a chance to hugely improve on the above.

Sorry to hear that @Weststander - Hope everything is ok today and necessary care being given.

(9 hour ambulance wait beggars belief - if you were rushed straight round to Resus, sounds like the 999 contact call centre didn’t triage the call very well.)

 

[WATFORD zero]

We had a medical emergency in the middle of last night. 999 said a 9.5 hour wait for an ambulence!

A long story, ended up driving to the RSCH. Taken straight to Resus round the back due to the circumstances.

Usual story, a war zone in terms of packed like sardines, alone 90 year old parked on ambulance trollies in the corridors, insufficient numbers of consultants.

The bright spot … the amazing medical personnel.

(Hope this isn’t incorrect about the following places) it felt like the hospital conditions you’d expect to see in Cairo or Bucharest.

Thank fck another administration has got a chance to hugely improve on the above.

Sounds horrendous and I hope the person involved is far better today

 

[Giraffe]

Interesting. Has this MP actually been sworn in properly?

Keir Starmer under pressure to sack Clive Lewis over anti-monarchy protest

Sir Keir Starmer is coming under pressure to take action against a Labour MP who swore allegiance to King Charles III in an act of protest.

www.express.co.uk

 

[A1X]

Interesting. Has this MP actually been sworn in properly?

Keir Starmer under pressure to sack Clive Lewis over anti-monarchy protest

Sir Keir Starmer is coming under pressure to take action against a Labour MP who swore allegiance to King Charles III in an act of protest.

www.express.co.uk

As long as he said the words on the card (which so far as I’ve seen, he did) then he’s sworn in.

Anything else is just noise where the Daily Express opposes free speech.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Interesting. Has this MP actually been sworn in properly?

Keir Starmer under pressure to sack Clive Lewis over anti-monarchy protest

Sir Keir Starmer is coming under pressure to take action against a Labour MP who swore allegiance to King Charles III in an act of protest.

www.express.co.uk

I hope that Reform have kept up to the expectations you had when you voted for them, What do you make of this latest reorganisation of your party ?

I'm assuming you're not one of these reform supporters



Are you ?

 

[beorhthelm]

As long as he said the words on the card (which so far as I’ve seen, he did) then he’s sworn in.

Anything else is just noise where the Daily Express opposes free speech.

yeah, its a silly non issue. its an empty gesture, only ones who stand by their principles are Sinn Fein, who'd rather not sit than to pledge allegiance.

 

[Weststander]

Sorry to hear that @Weststander - Hope everything is ok today and necessary care being given.

(9 hour ambulance wait beggars belief - if you were rushed straight round to Resus, sounds like the 999 contact call centre didn’t triage the call very well.)

The 999 lady was hopeless and unconnected to later events at the hospital. Working from a flowchart/stock procrastinating lines, the bottom line was to wait 9.5 hours unless not conscious or breathing. She spoke ever so slowly, with long gaps, as we dealt with someone having spasms and a 177 heart rate, scared senseless.

Little doubt, all part of the inadequate resources for our much larger population, much older population, obese population.

In the same way that Labour/Tories this century have delivered some amazing new hospitals eg the RSCH, I’d love the DoH to list the most pressured and not fit for purpose A&E’s, then set about replacing the lot starting with the worst.