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How long has Slade got?



algie

The moaning of life
Jan 8, 2006
14,713
In rehab
How can you say it's not negative when he's trying to claim that players dont want to join us and all our best players want out?

We dont even know who our target players are so trying to claim they dont want to join us is just negative rubbish, And one player has asked for a transfer because his family has'nt settled in the south so it hardy constitutes all our best players wanting out so yet again more negative rubbish.

Maybe because they are mates and thats why he is sticking up for that wanker? they do sit next to eachother at games.
 




The Large One

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Jul 7, 2003
52,343
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Actually Russell is very satisfied with the budget he has been given, and when he comes back from holiday, he will really start motoring on finalising his management team, and re-building his squad from the list of players they have already identified.

Source: Russell Slade, via Doug Clarke.
 


algie

The moaning of life
Jan 8, 2006
14,713
In rehab
Actually Russell is very satisfied with the budget he has been given, and when he comes back from holiday, he will really start motoring on finalising his management team, and re-building his squad.

Source: Russell Slade, via Doug Clarke.
I thought he had his holiday in Cornwall a few weeks back?
 


Mendoza

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Maybe because they are mates and thats why he is sticking up for that wanker? they do sit next to eachother at games.

whats that got to do with anything, I am mates with lots of Brighton fans, but dont necessarily agree with their views about players/club/managers etc. WW is no different.

I just dont see it as a massively negative thread that wants Slade sacked like most people seem to think WW was getting at.
 






Father Jack

New member
Aug 21, 2005
1,708
most of the stuff WW posts is drivel, to be fair this isn't negative is he calling for Slades head? - No. Is he stating the obvious about Whing Owusu Andrew etc Yes. I think we'll be ok next year but the clock is ticking to the start of pre season.
 


algie

The moaning of life
Jan 8, 2006
14,713
In rehab
whats that got to do with anything, I am mates with lots of Brighton fans, but dont necessarily agree with their views about players/club/managers etc. WW is no different.

I just dont see it as a massively negative thread that wants Slade sacked like most people seem to think WW was getting at.

It's got everything to do with it.You know full well the bloke is a depressing negative twat who must have personal issues to think like he does on a daily basis.
You are hardly going to critize him are you on here? WW is different from most people and you know it.
The thing that makes me laugh is when he sulks about the abuse he gets on here,hardly suprising is it?
 


Acker79

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Nov 15, 2008
31,921
Brighton
I think it's a legitimate question, but with a negative spin at the end (could have just left it open instead of listing only the negatives about Slade and why people will turn on him).

Points that spring to my mind, having barely skimmed the other posts because I'm at work and can only flit.

-MA came to us as a "failed" manager. When he left us first time he played second fiddle at a relegated team, then with the massive advantage of premiership players and finances he got promotion back to the premiership. After that he hadn't achieved anything. He came back to us a different Micky. He sat quietly in dugouts, refused to criticise players who messed up, wanted to hug the team.

RS came to us after a controversial firing from his previous team at which he had success. He has a story of successes. He came in and brought in a new attitude, he had fire, he spoke sense, his general attitude showed someone who knew what they were doing.

He had some doubters, but he won them over, with his common sense approach (settled side, not getting carried away with a single victory, etc).

This, I feel, will buy him some time in the face of a poor run. People will look back to his recent history with us and how he turned round a failing team, will look to his past with other clubs and his talent for turning round failing teams and the majority will give him a bit of time on that basis alone.

-Then there's the fact we got rid of most of our squad, and a lot of people will give the team time to gel and bed in.

Yes, our expectations may be high on the back of a successful end to the season (with promotion form), and with the money we supposedly have to spend from TB (though I gather it has been said that we won't have a lot more than last year to spend), but we have a manager who has a grounded outlook, and hopefully a fan base that can learn from QPR and Man City's first year as the richest club. Money doesn't equal instant success.


Having said that, there will of course be sections of the fan base who will expect us to win every week, regardless, and anything less is unacceptable and will moan. But as for the general crowd, I think we will turn up to each game with optimism, and full support for the team. The more we lose, the less time the fans will get per game to keep the crowd, but, I think that effect will be less than it was last year.
 




Silent Bob

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Dec 6, 2004
22,172
I just dont see it as a massively negative thread that wants Slade sacked like most people seem to think WW was getting at.
It doesn't want Slade sacked but it is a massively negative, myopic, and moronic thread.
 


British Bulldog

The great escape
Feb 6, 2006
10,974
I just dont see it as a massively negative thread that wants Slade sacked like most people seem to think WW was getting at.

Trying to claim we've had " A shocker of a summer " is nothing but negative.
 


Mendoza

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It's got everything to do with it.You know full well the bloke is a depressing negative twat who must have personal issues to think like he does on a daily basis.
You are hardly going to critize him are you on here? WW is different from most people and you know it.
The thing that makes me laugh is when he sulks about the abuse he gets on here,hardly suprising is it?

There is a lot of stuff I dont agree with him on things to do with the Albion, and I have criticised him in the past, and I no doubt will in other threads, just this one I dont feel there is a need to jump on the bandwaggon and have a pop.

He knows he will get abusae with anything he writes, that probably why he puts that in each thread he starts no matter if the topic is positive.

Just because they are a mate, it doesnt mean you have to agree with everything they say. I am sure you or anyone in the world agrees with everything their mates say, this is the same in my opinion.
 






Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
31,836
Uffern
It doesn't want Slade sacked but it is a massively negative, myopic, and moronic thread.

But why? The average tenure of a Brighton manager in the last decade is less than a year and we know that Slade wasn't the first choice. We also know that the Brighton fans are not the most patient fans going - just ask Mark McGhee - so to ask how long a manager has is a perfectly legitimate question (although I agree that "shocker of a summer" is complete overkill).

When we have managers again who last two whole seasons and fans who don't post polls asking "in" or "out" after every game that we lose, then such questions are moronic but until then, it's a perfectly valid one.
 


Mendoza

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Trying to claim we've had " A shocker of a summer " is nothing but negative.

He did point out stadium aside, shocker maybe a harsh phrase. Trying to read his mind, maybe it is because
Whing wont commit until over options seemingly fall through
Owusu has gone
Loft has gone
We havent signed anyone, when other teams have
Murray wants out, Lynch wants out
We still have Hawkins on our books
Season ticket prices didnt fall, when other teams have
Students over 21 have to pay full whack for a season ticket

who knows, im not saying they are things that call for a shocker summer, but all isnt as hunky dory as everyone wanted
 




Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
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We're halfway through the summer, how can anyone seriously call it a shocker until the end?
 


The Large One

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Jul 7, 2003
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He did point out stadium aside, shocker maybe a harsh phrase. Trying to read his mind, maybe it is because
Whing wont commit until over options seemingly fall through
Owusu has gone
Loft has gone
We havent signed anyone, when other teams have
Murray wants out, Lynch wants out
We still have Hawkins on our books
Season ticket prices didnt fall, when other teams have
Students over 21 have to pay full whack for a season ticket

who knows, im not saying they are things that call for a shocker summer, but all isnt as hunky dory as everyone wanted

Seems like a perfectly normal summer to me in that case, probably similar - in terms of landing certain players - to those other clubs are experiencing.

Every player we have on our radar will be considering their options carefully and making their decision when they're ready - not the club.

We're not even halfway through the close season. Very little, in terms of squad-building ever happens in June - it's the one month players and management get off (except for those trying to find a new club) and hardly any players have been signed by anyone in comparison to those who have been released by their clubs.
 


British Bulldog

The great escape
Feb 6, 2006
10,974
He did point out stadium aside, shocker maybe a harsh phrase. Trying to read his mind, maybe it is because
Whing wont commit until over options seemingly fall through
Owusu has gone
Loft has gone
We havent signed anyone, when other teams have
Murray wants out, Lynch wants out
We still have Hawkins on our books
Season ticket prices didnt fall, when other teams have
Students over 21 have to pay full whack for a season ticket

who knows, im not saying they are things that call for a shocker summer, but all isnt as hunky dory as everyone wanted

I think it's more a case of people's expectations running away with themselves rather than things not being all hunky dory, There's a long way to go before the start of the season and a lot of dealing to be done between now and then so it's a bit early to be getting all negative.
 


British Bulldog

The great escape
Feb 6, 2006
10,974
We're not even halfway through the close season. Very little, in terms of squad-building ever happens in June - it's the one month players and management get off (except for those trying to find a new club) and hardly any players have been signed by anyone in comparison to those who have been released by their clubs.

Thats the thing most clubs effectivly shut down during June and very little happens in the way of transfers and then when the transfer window opens in July thats when things really start kicking into gear.
 




bhaexpress

New member
Jul 7, 2003
27,627
Kent
It's got everything to do with it.You know full well the bloke is a depressing negative twat who must have personal issues to think like he does on a daily basis.
You are hardly going to critize him are you on here? WW is different from most people and you know it.
The thing that makes me laugh is when he sulks about the abuse he gets on here,hardly suprising is it?

You have got that in one. It was actually a reasonable question in some ways but because of who asked it the credibility is rather lacking. Maybe if WW made a very permature New Year's Resolution to stop being so negative he might be taken a bit more seriously.
 


Silent Bob

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Dec 6, 2004
22,172
But why? The average tenure of a Brighton manager in the last decade is less than a year and we know that Slade wasn't the first choice. We also know that the Brighton fans are not the most patient fans going - just ask Mark McGhee - so to ask how long a manager has is a perfectly legitimate question (although I agree that "shocker of a summer" is complete overkill).

When we have managers again who last two whole seasons and fans who don't post polls asking "in" or "out" after every game that we lose, then such questions are moronic but until then, it's a perfectly valid one.
I think the fact Slade was not first choice is irrelevant now, we also have a new chairman so we don't know how triggerhappy he will be. I also don't think our fans are that bad, controversial I know. But that's not really the point I was making. It was about the "shocker of a summer" and "whiff of discontent". Both are patent nonsense.

The summer hasn't even started yet. How many transfers have been made by League One clubs? Or any other league for that matter? One players has left, a couple of others might or might not, the expectation seems to be that we should sign replacements immediately (or in fact pre-emptively) or else we're DOOMED. Stupid.
Secondly, a few people on here getting needlessly twitchy does not count as "discontent". We all want to see transfers happening straight away, of course, but even those who are worried that we haven't yet are not "discontent". They're not calling for Slade and/or Bloom to go. That's discontent.

So we are supposed to take these two half-baked (at best) points and use that to discuss when the crowd will turn on an extremely popular manager. What's the point in that?
 


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