Will he? They are already lobbying for presidents to be able to have 3 terms. It’s also not unlikely that whoever comes after him, is equally happy to carry on this shit, if its Vance, would you bet on him rolling any of this back?
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[Politics] Donald Trump, US President
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Will he? They are already lobbying for presidents to be able to have 3 terms. It’s also not unlikely that whoever comes after him, is equally happy to carry on this shit, if its Vance, would you bet on him rolling any of this back?
The Clamp
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Scaremongering.
The Clamp
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Of course it will. It’s not the end of days. It’s an idiot in the White House. Been plenty of those before. Seen em come, seen em go.
Amazing really that that joke hits 10 years old this year and yet remains as relevant as it ever was
Actually, a correction. They are not lobbying for presidents to have 3 terms, they are lobbying for Trump and Trump alone to be allowed three terms. Because they're still shitting themselves that Obama would come back and wipe the floor with them.
Thunder Bolt
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Probably by cholesterol.
The Clamp
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The good news with Trump is that if he survives his term, he’ll not hang around. Politics doesn’t interest him especially when there’s nothing to win.
Hopefully someone will pursue him through the courts but unlikely .
Hopefully someone will pursue him through the courts but unlikely .
He's also all over Eco's fascism checklist:
While Eco is firm in claiming “There was only one Nazism,” he says, “the fascist game can be played in many forms, and the name of the game does not change.” Eco reduces the qualities of what he calls “Ur-Fascism, or Eternal Fascism” down to 14 “typical” features. “These features,” writes the novelist and semiotician, “cannot be organized into a system; many of them contradict each other, and are also typical of other kinds of despotism or fanaticism. But it is enough that one of them be present to allow fascism to coagulate around it.”
The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”
The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”
The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”
Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”
Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”
Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”
The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”
The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”
Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”
Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”
Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”
Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”
Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”
Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”
Umberto Eco’s List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism
Creative Commons image by Rob Bogaerts, via the National Archives in Holland One of the key questions facing both journalists and loyal oppositions these days is how do we stay honest as euphemisms and trivializations take over the discourse?
www.openculture.com
nicko31
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We have seen some pretty dud presidents George Bush Jnr. springs to mind. But for all his flaws, he was someone who did what he believed was right for the USA at that time, even if many actions were misguided.
But we're in a different place now, we have someone that doesn't believe in the rule or law, doesn't believe in institutions and only recognises democratic norms when things go his way. He also has immunity from prosecution.
The system still relies on honest actors, I wouldn't be betting the house on the next transfer of power being seamless or peaceful. Remember they wanted to execute Mike Pence.
I really hope you turn out to be correct, having the leader of the free world move from controlling a flawed democracy to a failed one won't good for any of us
They'll give him a pardon, pat him on the head and send him off to live out his days playing golf in Florida
Thunder Bolt
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Thank you. It is so difficult to tell now.
Indiana man pardoned by Trump for Jan. 6 riot is shot and killed by deputy during arrest
Matthew Huttle was among more than 1,500 people pardoned by President Donald Trump stemming from the Capitol attack Jan. 6, 2021.
www.usatoday.com
We have eliminated one of the J6 rioters in NW Indiana. The man killed lived 20 minutes from my house and he was killed by a sheriff's deputy in Jasper County which is about 25 minutes south of my town. I have traveled the highway where the incident happened 100's of times.
Indiana man pardoned by Trump for Jan. 6 riot is shot and killed by deputy during arrest
An Indiana man recently pardoned by President Donald Trump for his role in the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the U.S. Capitol has been shot and killed by a sheriff’s deputy during a traffic stop.
Just after 4 p.m. on Sunday, a Jasper County Sheriff’s deputy pulled over 42-year-old Matthew Huttle of Hobart, Indiana State Police said in news release.
While trying to arrest Huttle, police say he resisted and began struggling with the deputy.
"An altercation took place between the suspect and the officer, which resulted in the officer firing his weapon and fatally wounding the suspect," police said.
Last week, another man connected to the Jan. 6 riot was arrested after Trump pardoned him.
Daniel Ball of Florida was arrested on a pending federal gun charge out of Florida connected to prior convictions of domestic violence battery by strangulation and resisting law enforcement with violence, reported The Hill and The New York Times.
I've never been prouder of the Jasper County Sheriffs Office.
I shared it myself and it was only only when my mate asked if it was real that I bothered to check. Still amusing though and entirely plausible
Fake pic but this is an interesting article
How American Latinos came to embrace Donald Trump’s immigration policy | City, University of London
Fernando Pizarro (Lecturer in Journalism) writes for The Conversation about the Latino vote for Trump.
Kind of backs up my dealings with legal immigrants in Miami, A lot seem to be ashamed of illegals and think it gives them less legitimacy and a bad name, especially the south Americans.
Gazwag
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How many of those previous idiots had no accountability, I'm not sure anybody before as got the courts to say "he can do what he likes in office without risk of being unlawful"
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Yes, I had doubts about it. I find myself not trusting anything these days that isn't verified. I closed my Twitter and Facebook accounts recently and set one up for Blue Sky. Whilst it seems a kinder place, I don't believe that it is any better an information source.
It's a shame folk see fit to do this sort of thing. A kind of brain wave that believes they can create their own truth. I honestly thought that the internet age would lead to more verified truth, openness and accountability. I was very wrong. It seems quite the opposite. My biggest concern not being miss-information itself, but the willingness to accept it.
nicko31
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My family got in, now lock the doors. Its a common theme in the developed world.Fake pic but this is an interesting article
How American Latinos came to embrace Donald Trump’s immigration policy | City, University of London
Fernando Pizarro (Lecturer in Journalism) writes for The Conversation about the Latino vote for Trump.www.city.ac.uk
Kind of backs up my dealings with legal immigrants in Miami, A lot seem to be ashamed of illegals and think it gives them less legitimacy and a bad name, especially the south Americans.
I have an Hungarian - Australian friend who is always complaining about the Asia invasion.
nicko31
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Legacy media that is properly regulated and fact checked is essential for the survival of democracy.
Young people I think are very vulnerable to social media and the grifters out there know it
darkwolf666
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I believe people's willingness to accept missinformation is largely down to their own bias or stance. Confirmation bias is a much used phrase over the last few years, and I think these pictures are just a product of that.