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[Politics] Donald Trump, US President

Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 175 42.3%
  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 216 52.2%
  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 20 4.8%

  • Total voters
    414
  • Poll closed .


Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
16,633
My old man hates the foreign invasion so voted for Brexit. He was born in 1945 to a polish father and a Slovakian mother who met here after arriving a couple of years earlier. It is comparable to people who live in a new estate at the edge of town and then kick off about green belt when more houses coming on a newer estate.
I specifically remember a guy in a local Facebook group who did exactly that. And didn't understand the hypocracy when it was pointed out to him.

Mind you, he's a Portsmouth fan, so clearly a #Twat
 




Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
16,633
I really dont think so.

He doesnt need to actually change anything for the better. He just needs to keep telling everybody, and have his right wing media outlets tell everybody, that he has changed everything for the better. They believe the lies already - why else would a man like this be elected?- they just need to keep being fed more and more lies.
The landscape could be a boiling fetid mass of filth in 2028 for all but the stinking rich, and his message would be that he, and only he, is fixing things bigly, and Fox News and X and Meta and the like will spew out lies and outrageous untruths like never before.
Those who try to tell the truth will be eased out, mocked, ridiculed, set up as "Far Left Nasty People".

Its just a short step to him inventing a National Emergency to "postpone the election" by 2028. If he has the Supreme Court in his pocket, they could well uphold this.

Failing that - an amendment of the "Two Terms Maximum" rule - "That was only meant to be two terms in a row, folks, and I didnt get two terms in a row last time because I was cheated out of it. So the Supreme Court and I have had a little chat...."

Once the lies become so big, his followers will not care. He, and/or an increasingly autocratic Republican Party, are in for years and years now I fear.
I can't believe (well, I can, but you know what I mean) that he can still tout the whole 'rigged election' thing when it was proven false, Fox got stiffed for millions over it and he even – at one stage – admitted it wasn't true.... OK Donny mate :lolol:

He really doesn't care and does and says what he wants because, quite frankly, he can. Bonkers.
 




Eeyore

Colonel Hee-Haw of Queen's Park
NSC Patron
Apr 5, 2014
26,781
And now the slimey snake oil salesman Lord Mandelson has done a complete 180 and now decided that Trump is a thoroughly nice and decent chap after all, having previously called him "reckless" and "a bully". Pathetic.

It was very ill judged of the government to send him there in the first place.

Everyone knows what he really thinks of Trump.
 


nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
18,863
Gods country fortnightly
I can't believe (well, I can, but you know what I mean) that he can still tout the whole 'rigged election' thing when it was proven false, Fox got stiffed for millions over it and he even – at one stage – admitted it wasn't true.... OK Donny mate :lolol:

He really doesn't care and does and says what he wants because, quite frankly, he can. Bonkers.
Yeap, so easy to forget Fox reached a $787 million settlement with Dominion Voting Systems in a defamation lawsuit over its reporting of the 2020 presidential election. They now continue as if nothing ever happened
 






seagullsovergrimsby

#cpfctinpotclub
Aug 21, 2005
44,009
Crap Town
Why does RFK sound like he smokes 80 fags a day but wants to be the head honcho of health ?
 








Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
16,633
Might be a good appointment. Trump knows he can’t bully or threaten him, equally he can’t get on his good side. It’ll be interesting…
Indeed. Trump has an odd attitude to people because he can't stand anyone who doesn't like him and yet he is desperate to be liked and loved by everyone.
 






vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,336
And now the slimey snake oil salesman Lord Mandelson has done a complete 180 and now decided that Trump is a thoroughly nice and decent chap after all, having previously called him "reckless" and "a bully". Pathetic.

Mandy is just doing what Trump does, lying. Don't get upset, it's ok to lie these days and the bigger the whopper, the better. We live in a " Fact Fluid " society thanks to the likes of Trump, Johnson, Farage and many so called journalists....what parties ? What 40 hospitals ? What sovereignty ?
 


vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,336
Sacha Baron Cohen must be working on the script for this already.
I don't think he can write a script that is as absurd as current real life.
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,149
It's not about amending the Constitution, it's about interpreting the text of the Constitution. Something that falls to SCOTUS to do. A SCOTUS that is completely in Trump's pocket.
they cant interpret away the 22nd amendment.
 




Is it PotG?

Thrifty non-licker
Feb 20, 2017
26,105
Sussex by the Sea
Mandy is just doing what Trump does, lying. Don't get upset, it's ok to lie these days and the bigger the whopper, the better. We live in a " Fact Fluid " society thanks to the likes of Trump, Johnson, Farage and many so called journalists....what parties ? What 40 hospitals ? What sovereignty ?
Indeed, Starmer voted against Heathrow back in opposition. Then fibbed again on tax rises, they all do it to suit their personal objectives.
 


US Seagull

Well-known member
Jul 17, 2003
5,041
Cleveland, OH
they cant interpret away the 22nd amendment.
Yes they can. And you are naive to think they can't. This is the court that Trump has created. This is what it's for. They have repeatedly demonstrated the ability to legally stand on their heads to find a justification for their rules. Regardless of how thin (or non-existent) the legal reasoning is.
 




Green Cross Code Man

Wunt be druv
Mar 30, 2006
20,941
Eastbourne
There is a balance between sending people who break the law back to their native nations and targeting whole communities. If Trump gets this wrong, and it looks like he's going to, then long-term this would be catastrophic for Republican Party, as they can't just rely on White male votes as that is a shrinking base.
As I said earlier, it's not just white males. White females are supporters almost to the same degree. It's inexplicable.
 




beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,149
Yes they can. And you are naive to think they can't. This is the court that Trump has created. This is what it's for. They have repeatedly demonstrated the ability to legally stand on their heads to find a justification for their rules. Regardless of how thin (or non-existent) the legal reasoning is.
naive? maybe. i'm just surpriseed how fragile the US constitution and political structure has become, when it was supposed to stop exactly this sort of thing.
 


Bakero

Languidly clinical
Oct 9, 2010
15,179
Almería
As I said earlier, it's not just white males. White females are supporters almost to the same degree. It's inexplicable.

I heard earlier that 54% of American adults read at a 6th grade level (ie 11 years old) or below. That might explain it in part.

Before the schadenfreude fully kicks in, 33% of British adults have similarly poor literacy skills. Unsurprising, perhaps. What's amazing is that puts us 9th in the OECD table (the US are 16th out of 31)
 


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