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What ABOUT roy KEANES brother STEVE KEANE
I head THAT he was KEAN for the JOB as he IS running OUT of CHICKEN from the VENGA BOYS
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What ABOUT roy KEANES brother STEVE KEANE
I head THAT he was KEAN for the JOB as he IS running OUT of CHICKEN from the VENGA BOYS
albion534
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By the year 2020 you will never be more than 6ft away from an ex chelsea manager
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
i will CHECK with my SAUCe but I HEARD a RUMOUR that STEVE Keen is LINED up for the INTERIM job at Chelsea till the END of the season
cloud
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Yeah, he is lined up for when they fire Benitez
Hard to be surprised by the sacking of RDM, given how trigger happy Roman is. Bad decision in my view though, can't expect miracles from a squad with only one striker. Especially when that striker is Fernando bloody Torres. Chelsea have transitioned their squad very well, they have got a decent young core to their team now and I would say are 2 maybe 3 signings away from being able to seriously challenge for the league title for the next 5 seasons. A striker is obviously a priority, but I'd also go for another cm, mikel isn't good enough and a right back to free Ivanovic to play at centre back. Id sign piszczek, falcao and tiote. Play 4-2-3-1 Cech, Cole, Luiz, Ivanovic, Piszczek, Ramires, Tiote, Hazard, Oscar, Mata, Falcao as the starting xi. With many players returning from loans these leaves a really strong squad with Courtois, Terry, Cahill, Azipuelta, Bertrand, Romeu, Mikel, Moses, Sturridge, Kevin Du Bryne, Marin, Torres and Lukaku to form the bench. Might write to Roman about replacing the fat Spaniard at the end of the season...
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I think you are on the wrong forum.
By Matt Dickinson in today's Times.........November 27 2012.
Booooo! “F*** off Benítez!” How they screamed and shouted, summoning the fans’ inalienable right to vent their fury. You pay your money, you shout what you want (in the case of some West Ham United scumbags, failing to draw the line at mocking a stabbing victim and the Holocaust).
At Stamford Bridge, Rafael Benítez learnt the brutal way what so many Chelsea supporters think of him, and football’s usual reaction is to conclude that “the fans are entitled to their opinion”.
We are brought up to believe that thousands of Chelsea fans cannot be wrong about their own club, especially not at those prices.
But what if their opinion is self-defeating, misguided, bullying and stupid? What if it is cowardice to pick on Benítez when it is Roman Abramovich who should be bearing the brunt?
Forty thousand fans can be wrong.
They poured their frustrations down on the head of Benítez on Sunday, drowning out his introduction as interim manager with jeers, and still no one has satisfactorily explained why the loathing is so intense.
Many years ago he made a catty remark about “plastic flags” that are sometimes given out at Stamford Bridge (the “stupid” part of the quote seems to have been inserted later).
And, er, that’s it. As Liverpool manager, in the midst of a fierce rivalry with Chelsea, he also said he could never imagine himself working for Chelsea, yet added that “Chelsea is a big club with fantastic players; every manager wants to coach such a big team”. As inflammatory as an April shower.
He did not launch an underhand raid to disrupt John Terry, tell the Chelsea fans to “shush” or slide on his knees across Stamford Bridge.
He did not poke anyone in the eye, call Abramovich a blight on the game or say he would knock Chelsea off their f****** perch.
At Liverpool, he accused Didier Drogba of diving — who hasn’t? — and, in some eyes, he looks like a fat Spanish waiter.
Any more? Oh yes. “The fans are extremely upset about what he said about [Frank] Lampard and [Ashley] Cole,” David Johnstone, spokesman for the CFC UK Fanzine insisted yesterday, desperately trying to whip up fresh controversy after Benítez had implied that neither player would be given new contracts.
This fuss about nothing conveniently ignores that Benítez has been in the job a matter of days, has no input in contracts and is unlikely ever to do so. He was simply relaying what he had been told by the hierarchy, ie, the owner. But why let the facts get in the way of a lynch mob?
Benítez’s “crime” was to answer a phone call offering him a way out of lonely days sitting at home. He could have turned it down for a quiet life, but he wants to work and rebuild a reputation. If he succeeds, so do Chelsea.
His desperation to return to work was not going to change the fate of Roberto Di Matteo. The Italian was out in any case. Harsh, but Benítez is hardly some mug off the streets, or Avram Grant.
Benítez did not shoot Bambi. The man with Di Matteo’s blood on his hands, the man who slayed the darling of Stamford Bridge (whose team, incidentally, had leaked 21 goals in the past ten games), is Abramovich.
It is the owner who incessantly meddles and has a flawed obsession with getting a return on his £50 million for Fernando Torres despite all the evidence to the contrary.
Had Chelsea fans shown the courage of their convictions, they would have held up banners saying, “Roman, you don’t know what you’re doing”.
They would have stood up in the Matthew Harding Stand and shouted: “It’s not your club, it’s ours.” But to upset Abramovich is to risk that he stops throwing around potloads of money or, worse still, goes back to Grant.
So they thought they would boo Benítez, hope Abramovich picked up the message, but did not take it to heart. In other words, bullying and cowardice rolled into one.
Benítez gets it in the neck, apparently with little hope of respite.
Fans groups say they expect the vitriol to continue. It is as though many Chelsea fans are willing him to fail, in which case we can add the charge of stupidity. Finishing outside the top four, without a trophy, may get rid of Benítez — but it is hardly the way to lure Pep Guardiola.
Passion over reason is not a new phenomenon for football fans, but this seemed a particularly ugly, self-defeating expression.
Perhaps the booing convinced some that they do have a say at a club where they have rolled, happily, with the owner’s whims for almost a decade.
Maybe Chelsea fans were determined to disprove the view tweeted by Danny Baker, the broadcaster, on Sunday: “Chelsea fans. You HAVE no voice. That is the price you paid to be what you are now. You are season tickets. Programme sales. Product. Face it.”
Generally, those of us who like to believe, rather idealistically, that clubs belong to supporters not oligarchs think it is a good thing when fans come together as one for the wellbeing of their club. But not in the way it happened on Sunday when thousands screamed at Benítez before he had taken his seat. This was vindictive, and for what reason or purpose? Where does all that venom flow from here?
It sloshes around Stamford Bridge, making life harder for Benítez and his squad, and if Chelsea fail the place descends into even more rancour.
So “BOOOO!” all you like, Chelsea fans. The rest of us think you are nuts.
Booooo! “F*** off Benítez!” How they screamed and shouted, summoning the fans’ inalienable right to vent their fury. You pay your money, you shout what you want (in the case of some West Ham United scumbags, failing to draw the line at mocking a stabbing victim and the Holocaust).
At Stamford Bridge, Rafael Benítez learnt the brutal way what so many Chelsea supporters think of him, and football’s usual reaction is to conclude that “the fans are entitled to their opinion”.
We are brought up to believe that thousands of Chelsea fans cannot be wrong about their own club, especially not at those prices.
But what if their opinion is self-defeating, misguided, bullying and stupid? What if it is cowardice to pick on Benítez when it is Roman Abramovich who should be bearing the brunt?
Forty thousand fans can be wrong.
They poured their frustrations down on the head of Benítez on Sunday, drowning out his introduction as interim manager with jeers, and still no one has satisfactorily explained why the loathing is so intense.
Many years ago he made a catty remark about “plastic flags” that are sometimes given out at Stamford Bridge (the “stupid” part of the quote seems to have been inserted later).
And, er, that’s it. As Liverpool manager, in the midst of a fierce rivalry with Chelsea, he also said he could never imagine himself working for Chelsea, yet added that “Chelsea is a big club with fantastic players; every manager wants to coach such a big team”. As inflammatory as an April shower.
He did not launch an underhand raid to disrupt John Terry, tell the Chelsea fans to “shush” or slide on his knees across Stamford Bridge.
He did not poke anyone in the eye, call Abramovich a blight on the game or say he would knock Chelsea off their f****** perch.
At Liverpool, he accused Didier Drogba of diving — who hasn’t? — and, in some eyes, he looks like a fat Spanish waiter.
Any more? Oh yes. “The fans are extremely upset about what he said about [Frank] Lampard and [Ashley] Cole,” David Johnstone, spokesman for the CFC UK Fanzine insisted yesterday, desperately trying to whip up fresh controversy after Benítez had implied that neither player would be given new contracts.
This fuss about nothing conveniently ignores that Benítez has been in the job a matter of days, has no input in contracts and is unlikely ever to do so. He was simply relaying what he had been told by the hierarchy, ie, the owner. But why let the facts get in the way of a lynch mob?
Benítez’s “crime” was to answer a phone call offering him a way out of lonely days sitting at home. He could have turned it down for a quiet life, but he wants to work and rebuild a reputation. If he succeeds, so do Chelsea.
His desperation to return to work was not going to change the fate of Roberto Di Matteo. The Italian was out in any case. Harsh, but Benítez is hardly some mug off the streets, or Avram Grant.
Benítez did not shoot Bambi. The man with Di Matteo’s blood on his hands, the man who slayed the darling of Stamford Bridge (whose team, incidentally, had leaked 21 goals in the past ten games), is Abramovich.
It is the owner who incessantly meddles and has a flawed obsession with getting a return on his £50 million for Fernando Torres despite all the evidence to the contrary.
Had Chelsea fans shown the courage of their convictions, they would have held up banners saying, “Roman, you don’t know what you’re doing”.
They would have stood up in the Matthew Harding Stand and shouted: “It’s not your club, it’s ours.” But to upset Abramovich is to risk that he stops throwing around potloads of money or, worse still, goes back to Grant.
So they thought they would boo Benítez, hope Abramovich picked up the message, but did not take it to heart. In other words, bullying and cowardice rolled into one.
Benítez gets it in the neck, apparently with little hope of respite.
Fans groups say they expect the vitriol to continue. It is as though many Chelsea fans are willing him to fail, in which case we can add the charge of stupidity. Finishing outside the top four, without a trophy, may get rid of Benítez — but it is hardly the way to lure Pep Guardiola.
Passion over reason is not a new phenomenon for football fans, but this seemed a particularly ugly, self-defeating expression.
Perhaps the booing convinced some that they do have a say at a club where they have rolled, happily, with the owner’s whims for almost a decade.
Maybe Chelsea fans were determined to disprove the view tweeted by Danny Baker, the broadcaster, on Sunday: “Chelsea fans. You HAVE no voice. That is the price you paid to be what you are now. You are season tickets. Programme sales. Product. Face it.”
Generally, those of us who like to believe, rather idealistically, that clubs belong to supporters not oligarchs think it is a good thing when fans come together as one for the wellbeing of their club. But not in the way it happened on Sunday when thousands screamed at Benítez before he had taken his seat. This was vindictive, and for what reason or purpose? Where does all that venom flow from here?
It sloshes around Stamford Bridge, making life harder for Benítez and his squad, and if Chelsea fail the place descends into even more rancour.
So “BOOOO!” all you like, Chelsea fans. The rest of us think you are nuts.
Seagull over Canaryland
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Great report by Matt Dickinson, articulates beautifully what many onlookers in football are currently thinking about Chelsea and their fickle fans. Ok they are entitled
to have their say and understandably many would be baffled by the turnover in Managers but to give Benitez so much stick before he has even had one game in charge was cheap. Everything around that Club has a sleazy bad odour to it, completely eclipsing the feelgood from nicking the Champs League / European Cup. The latest is John Terry turning up wearing a shirt with RDM's old shirt number on it, if the Club Captain acts like that then no wonder the fans have lost sight of where reality is.
I don't think Abramovich is the sort to walk away but surely the Chelsea fans had better be careful what they wish for. If he were to lose interest and take his money elsewhere then Chelsea would surely disappear into oblivion overnight. As a Club they are now even more of a billionaire's plaything where young managers like AVB and RDM cannot enjoy any sense of continuity and the time to build a new squad is routinely sacrificed by the Owner in pursuit of short term success. OK he wants to see a return on his huge investment but you can't change an ageing squad overnight and expect it to click right away. It's a poisoned chalice.
As a neutral I enjoyed watching the footie Chelsea played when they had Gullit, Zola, Vialli, Poyet etc when they were on the 'up' after many poor years (I can recall the Albion giving them the run around at The Goldstone in the 80s) but they have gradually ruined it and now I just despise them as a Club and so many of their so called 'fans' are just plastics. Danny Baker is spot on, their fans seem irrelevant.
to have their say and understandably many would be baffled by the turnover in Managers but to give Benitez so much stick before he has even had one game in charge was cheap. Everything around that Club has a sleazy bad odour to it, completely eclipsing the feelgood from nicking the Champs League / European Cup. The latest is John Terry turning up wearing a shirt with RDM's old shirt number on it, if the Club Captain acts like that then no wonder the fans have lost sight of where reality is.
I don't think Abramovich is the sort to walk away but surely the Chelsea fans had better be careful what they wish for. If he were to lose interest and take his money elsewhere then Chelsea would surely disappear into oblivion overnight. As a Club they are now even more of a billionaire's plaything where young managers like AVB and RDM cannot enjoy any sense of continuity and the time to build a new squad is routinely sacrificed by the Owner in pursuit of short term success. OK he wants to see a return on his huge investment but you can't change an ageing squad overnight and expect it to click right away. It's a poisoned chalice.
As a neutral I enjoyed watching the footie Chelsea played when they had Gullit, Zola, Vialli, Poyet etc when they were on the 'up' after many poor years (I can recall the Albion giving them the run around at The Goldstone in the 80s) but they have gradually ruined it and now I just despise them as a Club and so many of their so called 'fans' are just plastics. Danny Baker is spot on, their fans seem irrelevant.
Indeed. Don't underestimate the stupidity of football fans.
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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Good piece by Dickinson and a nice quote by Danny Baker “Chelsea fans. You HAVE no voice. That is the price you paid to be what you are now. You are season tickets. Programme sales. Product. Face it.”
The thing is, the Chelsea fans wanted AVB out and Abramovich acted on that pretty sharpish, so it works both ways. The bottom line is I think the majority of Chelsea fans are too timid to "bite the hand that feeds". Spurs fans may have felt bad about the appointment of George Graham but they never reacted like Chelsea did last weekend. Clearly, they don't think Benitez is capable of winning them the big trophies and that is a factor, but it just make them seem like a bunch of twats.
After Terrygate, the Clattenburg Affair and the harsh treatment of RDM Chelsea have now officially taken over from Man Utd as most hated club in Britain.
The thing is, the Chelsea fans wanted AVB out and Abramovich acted on that pretty sharpish, so it works both ways. The bottom line is I think the majority of Chelsea fans are too timid to "bite the hand that feeds". Spurs fans may have felt bad about the appointment of George Graham but they never reacted like Chelsea did last weekend. Clearly, they don't think Benitez is capable of winning them the big trophies and that is a factor, but it just make them seem like a bunch of twats.
After Terrygate, the Clattenburg Affair and the harsh treatment of RDM Chelsea have now officially taken over from Man Utd as most hated club in Britain.
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So you'd give Nigel Adkins a chance were he ever to manage brighton then ?
Pavilionaire
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We've been through something similar when Coppell was appointed. We didn't boo him though because we're not a bunch of ***** like Chelsea fans.
You mean like we gave Steve Coppell a chance? Yes.
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Matt Dickinson - you have hit the nail on the head with that report! I personally think Benitez is a great manager. Liverpool got behind Rafa and guess what... he won the champions league, FA Cup and just threw away the prem at the last hurdle to the great sir alex - oh no, what a shock! Valencia got behind Rafa and guess what? He beat Barca and Real to the title... twice and won the Uefa Cup.
chelsea are vile and their fans are deluded. i hope they end up like portsmouth one day. I've always prefered liverpool, arsenal and man utd to chelsea since that prat Abramovich bought the football club bit out of chelsea. They're a business with no history and the history they've been building since 2001 will never match the achievements of liverpool, arsenal and man utd. The same applies to man city. whatever they achieve will just not be as good to the neutral.
chelsea are vile and their fans are deluded. i hope they end up like portsmouth one day. I've always prefered liverpool, arsenal and man utd to chelsea since that prat Abramovich bought the football club bit out of chelsea. They're a business with no history and the history they've been building since 2001 will never match the achievements of liverpool, arsenal and man utd. The same applies to man city. whatever they achieve will just not be as good to the neutral.
Greg Bobkin
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Steve Coppell came and managed here, so why not?
Adkins seems to get a lot of flak for one or two things (one that is continually mis-quoted), but so what? He's done well for himself, and the Southampton board have stuck with him (at the time of writing), and he could just turn things around along the coast.
Chelsea, meanwhile, are becoming a bit of a joke. Say the Russian gets Pep at the beginning of next season, and he fails miserably. What then? Who on earth does he turn to? He'd probably try and give it a go himself...
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For me the whole thing with Adkins was banter. And great fun it was... but who got the last laugh?
Adkins was a physio... he is now a top flight manager and currently fulfilling his objectives to avoid relegation. Fair bloody play! And fair play to the saints fans for getting behind their man! Togetherness in football is powerful!
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Did coppell ever have major rows with your club and fans ?
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we're making it, not talking about it like liverpool and arsenal.