[Albion] Dan Ashworth

[vagabond]

Sooooooo… Dan Ashworth.

Seems to be doing a good job.

 

[AZ Gull]

I'm really struggling to keep track of all the arguments going on in this thread.

 

[AZ Gull]

You really are a tedious bore. What makes someone who has been here five minutes, will be off again when his pet leaves and hasn't even spent a penny on our club think he can play Captain Hindsight because he's bored?

The comments about disruption at board level were made on various threads by myself and [MENTION=27447]Goldstone1976[/MENTION] because we have both sat on company boards, something you should know since you've been stalking my LinkedIn profile. And they are perfectly valid, The long term aim of getting in a new man and style of play worked a treat but the disruption came within one game of sending us down to The Championship. I appreciate that at the time you were strumming one off to Swansea and couldn't have placed Brighton on a map.

Stop it. Stop it now.

Just to put over a different opinion - [MENTION=38333]Swansman[/MENTION] has been one of the most interesting posters on NSC since he joined. He clearly irritates you (fair enough) but I don't see anything wrong with resurrecting threads as events unfold.

Maybe you're just a bit embarrassed by posts like this?:-

Needs to go. Club has gone downhill since he joined.


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[Jimmy Grimble]

FWIW, I also have found [MENTION=38333]Swansman[/MENTION] to be a great addition to this site. He makes a lot of valid points remarkably eloquently for a non-native. Some recent ones on this thread being case in point.

Seems a bit odd to try and belittle him for not being here in the struggle years. His opinions on what’s going on currently at BHAFC are always evidenced and informative.

 

[albionalex]

Bingo. Exactly.

That’s the point I was trying to make with my recent thread bounce (and no I won’t do it again for a while). Why can’t people learn to maybe reign in the hysterical overreactions slightly and give people a chance.

You’ve made this point in a far more eloquent way than I did Hugo.

Didn't you create a thread yesterday asking how GB is a mod because he hurt your feelings?

 

[Icy Gull]

Just to put over a different opinion - [MENTION=38333]Swansman[/MENTION] has been one of the most interesting posters on NSC since he joined. He clearly irritates you (fair enough) but I don't see anything wrong with resurrecting threads as events unfold.

Maybe you're just a bit embarrassed by posts like this?:-

Ouch

 

[Guinness Boy]

Just to put over a different opinion - [MENTION=38333]Swansman[/MENTION] has been one of the most interesting posters on NSC since he joined. He clearly irritates you (fair enough) but I don't see anything wrong with resurrecting threads as events unfold.

Maybe you're just a bit embarrassed by posts like this?:-

I'm probably more annoyed with going at Swansman personally for yet more shithousery when I should have been asking what the point of bouncing it was?

Has Ashworth been knighted and I'd not noticed? Saved a small child's life? Been given the freedom of Brighton? Got us in the Champions League?

Or are we just about to finish somewhere similar to last season and within three points of our total (at best)? Perhaps this was a reactionary bounce post after one result

 

[AZ Gull]

I'm probably more annoyed with going at Swansman personally for yet more shithousery when I should have been asking what the point of bouncing it was?

Has Ashworth been knighted and I'd not noticed? Saved a small child's life? Been given the freedom of Brighton? Got us in the Champions League?

Or are we just about to finish somewhere similar to last season and within three points of our total (at best)? Perhaps this was a reactionary bounce post after one result

I really don't understand what your problem with the bounce is, and to describe it as "shithousery" is, quite frankly, absurd.

But, hey ho, it's Friday and there's far better things for us to be spending our time on.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Here's how I see the pattern from a couple of posters:-

'I want to be loved by everybody, mine is the only voice that really understands'.
'What do you mean not everybody loves me'.
'I want to be loved by everybody, mine is the only voice that really understands'.
'I don't care if we're all singing from roughly the same song sheet'.
'I want to be loved by everyone, mine is the only voice that really understands'.
'If you don't love my every word I'm going to prove how wrong you are'.
'I want to be loved by everybody, mine is the only voice that really understands'.
'They hate me more'
'I want to be loved by everybody, mine is the only voice that really understands'
'I show them...'.

And you are which

 

[Hamilton]

Just to put over a different opinion - [MENTION=38333]Swansman[/MENTION] has been one of the most interesting posters on NSC since he joined. He clearly irritates you (fair enough) but I don't see anything wrong with resurrecting threads as events unfold.

Maybe you're just a bit embarrassed by posts like this?:-

I think that the point being made is that we had had a whole day of it yesterday with a certain post being resurrected and causing infighting and bitchery, and then the first thing we saw this morning was a similar post being resurrected.

I certainly wouldn't want this to become a place where posts and members get witch-hunted every day for differing views they have had in the past.

And all this after we have beaten City.

It's the end of term. Let's put it all to rest and have a beer. Maybe a Norrlands Guld Export?

 

[Stat Brother]

And you are which

I don't even like myself.

 

[Guinness Boy]

I really don't understand what your problem with the bounce is, and to describe it as "shithousery" is, quite frankly, absurd.

But, hey ho, it's Friday and there's far better things for us to be spending our time on.

I could type you another answer but, frankly, it wouldn't be better expressed, better written or more accurate than this....

Right, what the actual f*ck is going on here?

First, one NSC member rakes up an old thread to open up a divisive debate yesterday in an attempt to embarrass other members, now [MENTION=38333]Swansman[/MENTION] is at it. It's bloody juvenile and quite frankly not what is needed.

Members should be allowed to express their opinions without fear of having their thoughts shot down in years to come or hauled out in front of the masses for what certain OPs think is a public shaming.

In years to come it may well be the case that individuals that are lauded by some of these smug OPs fail in their roles. I hope that other posters do not start trawling through old posts to ridicule these posters at that time.

This attitude is not creating a community on NSC. It is doing the very worst, the type of work we have seen done by some of our smug, self-serving politicians and lobbyists over the last few years. Perhaps the moderators should have a quiet word with the said individuals. They know who they are.

 

[vagabond]

I really don't understand what your problem with the bounce is, and to describe it as "shithousery" is, quite frankly, absurd.

[emoji106]

 

[Weststander]

I wish all those entrenched in these spiteful battles, following each other across unrelated threads to snipe, would bring it to a close.

It’s all got rather childish, ego’s now driving it.

I respect and understand all views on the Albion from vagabond, Swansman and Guinness Boy. I wish they would.

I thinking bouncing old threads to laugh at a post is fine, it’s a nsc tradition.

Double standards ... it’s ok to bounce old Junior or TSB posts, but not posters with a load of nsc mates.

 

[KeegansHairPiece]

There is an irony that calling for a member of the club’s staff to be sacked is fine, but reminding someone of that opinion at a later date isn’t. Not sure I get it. This is a public forum, everything you write recorded for all to search for. Don’t like something being bounced in years to come - don’t post. Get something wrong and you’re reminded - so what, take it on the chin.

I’d rather be wrong and the club have proved that with a modicum of success that believe we would succeed and be proved wrong through the club’s failure.

 

[Husty]

It's a message board. People post during the heat of a match, or when they get home and have had a few beers. People get fed up with a few poor results and can't see the team managing to get out of a rut.
Hindsight is 20/20 vision but to villify people for having an opinion because it doesn't tally with yours by accusing them of ;attacking staff', is nonsense.

If it is so nauseating, then put the appropriate people on ignore, or don't log in for a few days.

As for being awarre of our fight for survival, don't dismiss it, with your platitudes.

Unusually wise words

 

[Guinness Boy]

I’d rather be wrong and the club have proved that with a modicum of success that believe we would succeed and be proved wrong through the club’s failure.

But how do you define that success?

We're no different in relative success today than under Hughton after PL season #1. That's exactly why there's disagreement.

If we were above Palace and staring up at the top ten with a 50-ish points season this board would be falling over itself with Potter and Ashworth love.

If we were already relegated there'd be way more angst.

But, as we're neither it's as binary as Brexit. If we're going to spend the whole rest of our existence just above relegation with one win in four I hardly see the future growth that must be in the business plan.

Next season it's shit or get off the pot.

 

[B-right-on]

Interview with Dan Ashworth that I found very informative:

https://trainingground.guru/articles/dan-ashworth-inside-the-mind-of-a-technical-director

TGG Podcast #20: Dan Ashworth - Technical Director role uncovered

Dan Ashworth joined Brighton in December 2018

WRITTEN BY SIMON AUSTIN — DECEMBER 9, 2020

BRIGHTON’S Dan Ashworth is one of the most experienced and influential Technical Directors in this country.
The 49-year-old first did the job at West Brom, from 2007 to 2012, during which time the Baggies were promoted to the Premier League and then secured a top-half finish.
In his seven years at the Football Association (half of them as Technical Director), he oversaw the introduction of the England DNA, a big emphasis on coaching and huge success for the age-group teams on the international stage.
Since the end of 2018, Ashworth has been on the south coast with Brighton, driving major changes that are ultimately designed to make the Seagulls a top-half-of-the-table Premier League team.
The Technical Director role has often met with suspicion and confusion in this country. Speaking on the Training Ground Guru podcast, produced in association with Hudl, Ashworth explained what the role involves and why it’s important.

Different titles, different approaches
Dan Ashworth: There’s a great deal of confusion about what the role is, partly because of all the different titles. Seventeen of the 20 Premier League clubs have this sort of position and they’re called Technical Director, Sporting Director, Director of Operations, Director of Football, so there’s lots of different versions and with that come different job descriptions.

During my time at the FA we wrote and delivered a Technical Director course. Part of that was to invite in all of those incumbents and say: “What do you do? What’s in your job description?”

And it was so different. Some are based on recruitment, some are involved in Academies, some have medical and sports science as well, some have training ground operations.
There’s also a misconception out there that the Technical Director is just about recruitment. For pretty much all of us recruitment is a major part of the role, but it’s only one part of the role.

In the middle of a wheel
I sit in the middle of a wheel and my job is to bring together seven departments, connecting those spokes. And when one of those head of departments leaves, you keep the wheel spinning and find a replacement.
The seven department heads are: Graham Potter, the first-team men’s Head Coach; Hope Powell, who runs our senior women’s team in the WSL; Paul Winstanley, Head of Recruitment; John Morling, Head of Academy; Adam Brett, Head of Medical Services; David Weir, who is in charge of our loans programme’ and James Bell, who is in charge of our psychology and mental wellbeing.

Historically, the one who is most likely to leave is the first-team manager. The average lifespan for them in this country is around 14 months.
The principle for a Technical Director, in my opinion, is to look after the medium to long term interests of the football club. It’s not about short-term 'get a result against Liverpool tomorrow', it’s to try and make sure the club is set up in a way that those other departments supplement and help Hope and Graham, but are also there for the longer-term benefits of the club.

Another thing that’s important is the connection from the boardroom onto the pitch. Every club has a CEO and chairman - and budgets, philosophies and principles - and it’s really important we get that across, whether it’s club values or maximising the budget and making sure we’re spending the money in the right way.

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(long post, chopped off 3/4 of it, see post #159)


Sorry to get this thread back on track, but I thought this was an excellent description of what DA does. I had no idea tbh and thought it was 'just recruitment' but i can see how it all works together and how key a role it actually is without this landing on Barbers door. ALso what a pivitol step in the stable expanion of teh club to get someone with his wealth of experience in.

 

[Stat Brother]

If we were above Palace and staring up at the top ten with a 50-ish points season this board would be falling over itself with Potter and Ashworth love

I admire you're optimism but we all know someone would have taken offence to something and would now be piggy backing on a glorious win (or loss) to prove some meaningless points just to inflated their own self importance.



Unity and NSC have been very, very, rare bedfellows for over 20 years, 13th in the Premier League is unlikely to change that.

 

[Justice]

But how do you define that success?

We're no different in relative success today than under Hughton after PL season #1. That's exactly why there's disagreement.

If we were above Palace and staring up at the top ten with a 50-ish points season this board would be falling over itself with Potter and Ashworth love.

If we were already relegated there'd be way more angst.

But, as we're neither it's as binary as Brexit. If we're going to spend the whole rest of our existence just above relegation with one win in four I hardly see the future growth that must be in the business plan.

Next season it's shit or get off the pot.

I heard a valid point in on the radio the other day Bielsa has dragged a middling Champions side to top ten of the PL obviously with a few squad improvements. Potter for all the hype has starved of relegation for two seasons.