I'll put the kettle on.
Have you got a kettle that whistles ?
Ummm.....no,sorry...that is factually incorrect and it does indeed show an understanding of mental illness.it is exactly the method employed in the ASIST practice.the concept here is to find the ambivalence that is always there when someone is suicidal...this provides the leverage with which to try and keep the individual engaged with life....so if the championship table is the thing that is the hook....is what works.not sure of the point of this thread, to be honest. is a suicidal person likely to be viewing nsc...and reading a thread entitled 'appeal....'?
and all those people who are telling him/her to 'look at the championship table' and remember that 'things are about to get good' are merely confirming the fact that they no NOTHING about mental illness. honestly, if you're suicidal, what's the difference between being told that football should make your life complete and being told to pull yourself together?
the only worthy posts on this thread are the ones telling him/her to seek professional help.
Thankyou..I suffer from border line personality disorder and some times find my self in the darkest deaths of hell.
People say think about the people you leave behind but imagin waking up every day wishing you were dead how hopeless and worthless you feel. People that say think about other people its all well and good but think about the person suffering with these
daemons.
I am pleased i didn't kill myself now as my life has changed. I still wake up now and then and wish i was not here but i tell ya what now them good days way out number the bad
Sussex has a amazing mental health service and i can put you in contact with some people.
The best bet is to open up straight away i bottled it up for years and it almost killed me. But now im learning to train to help people like myself
All the best mate you will get better.
agree...hits home even moreJust watched it, very good and its brighton too which seems to make it feel more REAL, if you know what i mean..
Ummm.....no,sorry...that is factually incorrect and it does indeed show an understanding of mental illness.it is exactly the method employed in the ASIST practice.the concept here is to find the ambivalence that is always there when someone is suicidal...this provides the leverage with which to try and keep the individual engaged with life....so if the championship table is the thing that is the hook....is what works.
I would urge anyone with an interest to google ASIST...began in canada and is now recognised worldwide as a suicide intervention methodology.
Locally GRASSROOTS offer training-often free...
not sure of the point of this thread, to be honest. is a suicidal person likely to be viewing nsc...and reading a thread entitled 'appeal....'?
and all those people who are telling him/her to 'look at the championship table' and remember that 'things are about to get good' are merely confirming the fact that they no NOTHING about mental illness. honestly, if you're suicidal, what's the difference between being told that football should make your life complete and being told to pull yourself together?
the only worthy posts on this thread are the ones telling him/her to seek professional help.
Umm no sorry. I think JB is right. As well-meaning as they are all those words about look at the championship etc are just platitudes and you yourself have finished your post with what JB has said was the correct thing to do - seek professional help.
And is often what is needed and be the thing that makes the difference...Let's not be too hard on people just wanting to offer help and support. Just because they are not professionals does not mean they have anything valid to add.
Ah...sorry you had to feel the need to take the piss-and if you read my post grassroots isnt about directly helping an individual thats suicidal-but training anyone who would be interested in how to reduce the risk of suicide.
And again-no,current suicidality research shows this is exactly what is needed and so the idea of finding the ambivalence-ie through hooking by chatting about football IS good practice.
Is exactly the place to speak of suicide and mental health issues....if we all spoke about these things more readily then they would have far less power...the whole ethos of being told to 'man up' on here is so outdated-so,yes-EXACTLY the place to discuss it.
Then re-read your post.yes we disagreed and absolutely no problem.but by beginning your post as you did was to take the piss and actually disarmed your argument.Hang on. I'm not taking the piss out of anything. I have nothing but empathy for all of the kind words spoken here and wish the poor bloke a speedy recovery. I simply disagreed with you. I read your post and think you are contradicting yourself. I don't want to get into a heated debate on this thread as it would be crass but I would rather not have someone accuse me of taking the piss.