Albion retain 11 out of the 15

[Gritt23]

not exactly a clear out is it?

i assume wilkins thinks that this current squad is good enough.

No it's not is it!

Either Wilkins is happy with what he's got (unlikely) or he knows we do not have the budget to improve it.

 

[Rookie]

or he needs players for a squad and to get in 10 players in one pre season is impossible. Just a thought

 

[Caveman]

No it's not is it!

Either Wilkins is happy with what he's got (unlikely) or he knows we do not have the budget to improve it.

Or he is keeping x amount of his players and will then strengthen? Which is the more likely.

 

[Questions]

Bertin has told the club that he wants to explore all avenues before he makes any decisions.

So if he gets a better offer - he`s off.




Mind you I think that would apply to any of our players if....




they were good enough to get better offers.

 

[Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo]

Delighted we are trying to keep Bertin. Hinsh and Reid being back to full fitness will be like having two new signings. We looked a lot better with them back in the side. Hopefully Hinsh will stay fit, got to be his last chance, he won't get another contract if he misses another year injured.

Guy getting another year will help the likes of Lynch and Elphick as they learn their trade more. We need a right back though and hopefully are going after Whing. Which would leave Reid free to play in centre of midfield and El-Abd can provide cover for a multitude of positions.

We certainly need to find a striker that is going to get goals, I don't think we'll be going down, if we can find some home form we should be safe, but without any real goalscorers in the squad we will struggle at times.

 

[unnameable]

Having Reid and Oatway back will be like signing two new players. We need their experience. Hopefully, Hinsh will get fit and stay fit. Kuipers should be our first-choice keeper. Hart will provide valuable cover in defence, midfield and attack. The emergence of Tommy Elphick should offset the (likely) loss of Lynch. With two or three experienced players added to the squad during the summer, we will be set to challenge at the top end of the table.

 

[Icy Gull]

Do we need to sell someone to fund the potential new signings? I fear we will

 

[Storer68]

When we spoke to Wilkins at Grays athletic a few weeks ago, he seemed less than confident about holding onto Bertin.........

 

[Simon Morgan]

See i'm not sure he's got that much in the way of contacts myself (look at the players he's bought in so far, and it's only hard to see who the contact is for Savage and Ward), nor do i think Bertin is quite what he's cracked up to be. However, it's a bit early to start worrying yet, as we've still got 2 and a half months to actually get the players in.

If come the first week in August our squad isn't much difference, THEN i'll safely declare we are doomed

But the point is, he's actually SIGNED players. Under the previous regime, the targets were too high and therefore unachievable. Now, he takes gambles (Savage, Elder, Sam Williams) and some pay off, some don't. Makes you wonder what the f*** McGhee was doing beforehand, if he had the opportunity to make the same gambles.

We've got a good squad, however negative people insist on being. I think once we've got Hammond back and we add a few more seasoned campaigners, we'll be moving onwards and upwards

 

[BobbySmith]

Just seen Charlie down the Health club, he is confident of being fit for next year, 'pleased for all, gutted for fish' (Hinsh ?). Young players are great kids and will all do well. He is confident about doing a job 'at this level'

 

[Withdean Wanderer]

But the point is, he's actually SIGNED players. Under the previous regime, the targets were too high and therefore unachievable. Now, he takes gambles (Savage, Elder, Sam Williams) and some pay off, some don't. Makes you wonder what the f*** McGhee was doing beforehand, if he had the opportunity to make the same gambles.

We've got a good squad, however negative people insist on being. I think once we've got Hammond back and we add a few more seasoned campaigners, we'll be moving onwards and upwards

Conveniently ignore the fact that under this regime we've still had the same old stories come out about failed attempts to sign targets that we know are unrealistic.

Why does EVERYTHING on NSC come back to McGhee? What the hell does he have to do with this? He made signings too, he made gambles, and likewise, some came off and some didn't.

Also, if our squad is really that good, then why did we almost get relegated?

 

[Icy Gull]

Why does EVERYTHING on NSC come back to McGhee? What the hell does he have to do with this? He made signings too, he made gambles, and likewise, some came off and some didn't.

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Exactly, McGhee would never have got away with some of the shit that's been served up this season or our finishing position. How long has DW got before he suffers the same fate? Bottom 6 two months into next season and the abuse will be raining down from the terraces again..

 

[The Large One]

Having Reid and Oatway back will be like signing two new players. We need their experience. Hopefully, Hinsh will get fit and stay fit. Kuipers should be our first-choice keeper. Hart will provide valuable cover in defence, midfield and attack. The emergence of Tommy Elphick should offset the (likely) loss of Lynch. With two or three experienced players added to the squad during the summer, we will be set to challenge at the top end of the table.

Am I the only one who thinks that Lynch's departure is FAR from certain? To me, it doesn't make sense.

I can't help feeling that there's a sense of presumptuous arrogance (not necessarily from your good self unameable) from some that because he is a half-decent talent at Brighton, it's automatic that he is a dead-cert for a transfer. Sure, some managers have come and had a look at him, but so what? He is nothing like ready for the big step-up. At best, he is a punt for the future for any manager. Don't get me wrong, I think his talent and temprament are certainly enough to take him far higher than we are at, but... just not yet.

My excessive gut feeling is that he is a nailed-on cert for him to be still here in August. We shall see.

 

[Simon Morgan]

Conveniently ignore the fact that under this regime we've still had the same old stories come out about failed attempts to sign targets that we know are unrealistic.

Why does EVERYTHING on NSC come back to McGhee? What the hell does he have to do with this? He made signings too, he made gambles, and likewise, some came off and some didn't.

Also, if our squad is really that good, then why did we almost get relegated?

Which stories were they? Constantine? thats the only one I can think of. The Curries one doesn't count, because it was a load of recycled bullshit from Naylor.

Everyone knows our squad is capable. A year in league 1 will have done them good and you must be f***ing depressed being this negative about everything apart from the Messiah Doug pissing Loft!

 

[Simon Morgan]

Exactly, McGhee would never have got away with some of the shit that's been served up this season or our finishing position. How long has DW got before he suffers the same fate? Bottom 6 two months into next season and the abuse will be raining down from the terraces again..

McGhee wasn't exactly new to management though, was he? We've been inconsistent during Wilkins' reign. We've played shite some times and we've played f***ing brilliantly (ok less frequently, but still) at others. Once we sort that out, we will be fine.

 

[Icy Gull]

McGhee wasn't exactly new to management though, was he? We've been inconsistent during Wilkins' reign. We've played shite some times and we've played f***ing brilliantly (ok less frequently, but still) at others. Once we sort that out, we will be fine.

I have no problem with DW I think he's doing ok under the circumstances but without wanting to revive tired old arguments. McGhee got us a promotion, a year in a great division and a relegation when the team was sold from under him. DW has only just avoided relegation and I think our unrealistic expectations are likely to cost him his job if he doesn't get off to a flyer next season.

 

[Withdean Wanderer]

Which stories were they? Constantine? thats the only one I can think of. The Curries one doesn't count, because it was a load of recycled bullshit from Naylor.

Everyone knows our squad is capable. A year in league 1 will have done them good and you must be f***ing depressed being this negative about everything apart from the Messiah Doug pissing Loft!

Constantine, Byfield, Forster. - http://www.seagulls.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/LatestDetail/0,,10433~973931,00.html

'Everyone knows our squad is capable'. Errr, do they? Is that because Hammond, Lynch and Cox have been quite good? Because other than that i'm struggling. Robinsons 6 goals in this league? If a year has done them so much good, then why have they got so much worse as the seasons gone on? Who's to say that won't happen again?
The ONLY other reason for serious hopes from our current squad is the fact that Reid (who was class before he got injured) and Hinshelwood (who was class last season) are set to return.

I'm not being 'f***ing depressed'. I just think that the current squad needs SERIOUS improvement, and i'm certainly not the only one.

 

[Simon Morgan]

I have no problem with DW I think he's doing ok under the circumstances but without wanting to revive tired old arguments. McGhee got us a promotion, a year in a great division and a relegation when the team was sold from under him. DW has only just avoided relegation and I think our unrealistic expectations are likely to cost him his job if he doesn't get off to a flyer next season.

Believe it or not, I was a McGhee fan, until about Xmas in his last season. I respected everything he did for the club on the little budget he was given, he just overstayed his welcome a little bit. Wilkins is in his first proper job in football management and I think our poor finish to the season has slightly clouded people's views on what it was like when it was better earlier on. Consistency will come with time.

 

[Simon Morgan]

Constantine, Byfield, Forster. - http://www.seagulls.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/LatestDetail/0,,10433~973931,00.html

'Everyone knows our squad is capable'. Errr, do they? Is that because Hammond, Lynch and Cox have been quite good? Because other than that i'm struggling. Robinsons 6 goals in this league? If a year has done them so much good, then why have they got so much worse as the seasons gone on? Who's to say that won't happen again?
The ONLY other reason for serious hopes from our current squad is the fact that Reid (who was class before he got injured) and Hinshelwood (who was class last season) are set to return.

I'm not being 'f***ing depressed'. I just think that the current squad needs SERIOUS improvement, and i'm certainly not the only one.

Constantine, Byfield and Forster was the same story, mate.

So players get worse with experience, good one. If they are playing their first full season in professional football, is it not acceptable with you that they get f***ing nackered due to the physical demands imposed on them?

Cox, Lynch and Hammond. Revell, Elder, Savage, Rents, Bertin, Kuipers and Robinson are all capable for me. We have the makings of a good team, I probably phrased it incorrectly, and we have some good players. If we can get some other, more experienced people to play alongside them, I honestly believe we are looking at play-offs next year.

By 'SERIOUS improvement', what exactly do you mean? How much will it take to transform these bunch of idiots into an acceptable outfit?

 

[Withdean Wanderer]

Constantine, Byfield and Forster was the same story, mate.

What difference does it make if it's written as one story as three? The point is, Wilkins had one transfer deadline, and Knight has come up with the same old bullshit.

So players get worse with experience, good one. If they are playing their first full season in professional football, is it not acceptable with you that they get f***ing nackered due to the physical demands imposed on them?

You miss my point. Just because they have had a season, doesn't automatically mean they will improve. They MAY do, they may not. That is why some players go from being the next big thing to nobodies.

Cox, Lynch and Hammond. Revell, Elder, Savage, Rents, Bertin, Kuipers and Robinson are all capable for me. We have the makings of a good team, I probably phrased it incorrectly, and we have some good players. If we can get some other, more experienced people to play alongside them, I honestly believe we are looking at play-offs next year.

I think the key words here are 'for me'. Your opinion of Elder is presumably based on one start and one goal. Bertin appears to be keen to leave by all accounts. Half of Robinsons 12 goals have been against lower league opposition (although i actually rate him, he hasn't shown any sign of consistency when he's played for us). Savage has been erratic, his goals kept us up, but is he any more than a ten goal a season man? Kuipers is almost guaranteed an injury. Revell is a solid player, gives 100%, but again, is he going to get us more than ten goals a season with current service? I doubt it.

By 'SERIOUS improvement', what exactly do you mean? How much will it take to transform these bunch of idiots into an acceptable outfit?

Bunch of idiots? Not my words.
I think the best this squad can hope for is 16th place. I think that at the very least we need to be challenging for the play-offs, in order to keep fans content and actually sell tickets at Withdean. A SERIOUS improvement, is an improvement that sees us in 8th place at the end of next season.