Who were the f***ing wankers......

[Camp Freddy]

not on any wind up at all, just pointing out the facts. supporters who are more boisterous.. usualy as a result the club benefits a 12th man.
seriousley, would anyone on here rather a club with no singing & no chanting, or would you rather a club who boasts a good vocal & passionate support. ie like liverpool, celtic, newcastle & not like chelsea arsenal & watford. because liverpools passionate support arrive's from plenty of boisterous behaviour.
these so called meathead mindless morons who you so love to call are the main bulk who generate these loud intimidating atmospheres and whether you like it or not these ikes who do nothing but complain... DONT!!!

Plenty of atmosphere at Bristol Rovers last week, no 'No Surrenders' and no sign of any knuckledraggers like you.

 

[Gully]

I have just remembered a song that has "no surrender" in it...in a totally different context...the one sung with gusto by Horsham fans.

Give me lard in my heart,
give me Horsham,
give me lard in my heart I pray,
give me lard in my heart,
give me Horsham,
give me Horsham till the break of day,

No surrender, no surrender, no surrender to the low fat spread,
no surrender, no surrender, no surrender to the low fat spread!!!

...only offensive if you are a lefty Republican tub of margarine!

 

[chez]

The obviously are a little thick|dense as the IRA are now insignificant and other problems in the world are higher up the list of worries for the UK.

Just laugh at them, small minded and pointless

Crystal Palace are also insignificant as we very rarely play them but we still sing songs about them. We also still sing songs about a player who hasn't played a competitive game for us since 1983.

Fact is it is a song that has been sung at football matches for years and just because it doesn't really apply anymore wont and shouldn't stop supporters of any team singing it.

 

[Cian]

What f***ing "Northern Irish unionist chant"? It is about ENGLAND and our refusal to allow the catholic terrorist SCUM have their own way! Blair gave them their own way, then shows his true colours after stepping down from PM and goes catholic.

You clearly haven't got a clue where the chant came from, then. It has about as much relevance to England as a Saltire does. But then again, those that chant it are generally a bit dim...

You may also be interested to know that religion had very little part to play in nationalist politics until the British government made it have one by partitioning on religious lines. The first President of Ireland was protestant, as was the chief negotiator for the Treaty, as were many of the leaders in the Rising and the War of Independence (and some of those that weren't were atheist, there was by no means a Catholic majority). Effectively all the leaders in the 1798 Rebellion were. However, they were mostly Anglican - the whole idea that Catholics were the sole 'agressors' so to speak was invented by the Presbyterians. It wasn't helped by the second government of Ireland writing a constitution based on Catholic ethos, but this was never the intent or desire of the original founders.

 

[Gully]

Fact is it is a song that has been sung at football matches for years and just because it doesn't really apply anymore wont and shouldn't stop supporters of any team singing it.

I can honestly say that I have never heard that song sung at a football match, neither do I ever want to, I still for the life of me can't understand how it has any relevance at a football match played in England by a community club like ours...yes you heard it right, community club...one that purports to represent everyone regardless of their creed, religion, gender or persuasion.

 

[cunning fergus]

I can honestly say that I have never heard that song sung at a football match, neither do I ever want to, I still for the life of me can't understand how it has any relevance at a football match played in England by a community club like ours...yes you heard it right, community club...one that purports to represent everyone regardless of their creed, religion, gender or persuasion.

So if I understand you correctly the football club that I support now has an established political ideology?

And not just any old political ideaology either; because if as you believe BHA represents 'everyone regardless of their creed, religion, gender or persuasion' then the club is in the grip of Marxists. Someone better tell the Palace fans living in the Brighton area they might not be aware of this arrangement.

But then its not is it, its just you and your own personal Marxist wet dream that BHA might develop a political left of centre ideology............to paraphrase another deluded BHA fan.

The reality is that BHA cares about just one single constituency of people from the 'community' and that is those prepared to pay week in week out to go a support them. And rightly so.............that's it.

You may well be disturbed that there are BHA fans out there who do not share your political outlook, aspirations and behave like you do, but now you need to get over it..........its not your club.

 

[The Spanish]

You sound like right scum.

I bet your kind were the ones who killed the millions of africans, australian aboriginals, native american indians and a plethora of other peoples around the world who dared to try and defend their home lands.

It's funny how those who start all these conflicts sook when anyone dares to stand up to them.

hahahaha i am a white man living in australia (probably of british descent) moaning about the bad white man and their treatment of the abbos. typical aussie, it wasnt me it was the bad english men done it. sorry to piss off any genuine ex pats but australia (like america) is for people whos families couldnt hack it in britain. your opinion is worth f*** all. stick to making the natives alcoholics and sexing up jenny agutter.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

So if I understand you correctly the football club that I support now has an established political ideology?

And not just any old political ideaology either; because if as you believe BHA represents 'everyone regardless of their creed, religion, gender or persuasion' then the club is in the grip of Marxists. Someone better tell the Palace fans living in the Brighton area they might not be aware of this arrangement.

But then its not is it, its just you and your own personal Marxist wet dream that BHA might develop a political left of centre ideology............to paraphrase another deluded BHA fan.

The reality is that BHA cares about just one single constituency of people from the 'community' and that is those prepared to pay week in week out to go a support them. And rightly so.............that's it.

You may well be disturbed that there are BHA fans out there who do not share your political outlook, aspirations and behave like you do, but now you need to get over it..........its not your club.

Er ... totally WRONG.


http://www.seagulls.co.uk/staticFiles/d7/2d/0,,10433~142807,00.pdf


BRIGHTON AND HOVE ALBION FOOTBALL CLUB

CUSTOMER CHARTER

MISSION STATEMENT

Brighton and Hove Albion Football Club “(The Club”) aims to be a source of civic
pride in the City of Brighton and Hove (“The City”). It will enhance the image and
increase national awareness of the “City by the Sea” by:

• playing professional football at the highest possible level

• managing the Club professionally so as to ensure a sustainable future for
top class sport within the City.

• representing and caring for the interests of its supporters and the vibrant
and diverse community of Brighton and Hove encouraging involvement
through liaison and consultation groups.

• participating in the Football League campaign “Enjoy the Match” by
eradicating anti-social behaviour specifically in the family area of the
ground, making the experience more appealing to all supporters and
especially families.

• developing the potential of young people seeking to achieve sporting
excellence

• expanding the important work of our Albion in the Community
programme, creating opportunities for young people who are
disadvantaged or who have special needs to learn and to take part in
sport

• providing a facility which will attract visitors to the City and create
education, training and employment opportunities

• developing opportunities that recognise and reflect the needs of different
community groups in the City, providing additional places to play and
opportunities to improve standards from grass roots to specialised
coaching

• promoting an understanding of the value to the wider community of sport
with accessible and affordable community spectator facilities creating top
level spectator and participator experience

• enhancing and promoting the place of football in our City’s heritage and
culture, and in the pursuit of sporting and civic values through
partnerships across the commercial, public and education sectors


BRIGHTON AND HOVE ALBION FOOTBALL CLUB ANTIDISCRIMINATION
POLICY

1. Brighton and Hove Albion Football Club is committed to confront and
eliminate discrimination whether by reason of race, nationality, ethnic
origin, colour, religion, disability, sex or sexual orientation.

2. Brighton and Hove Albion is an equal opportunities employer. It is
committed to equal opportunity within its own organisation and to
encourage similar commitment from every organisation with which we
have business or social dealings.

3. Equality of opportunity at Brighton and Hove Albion Football Club means
that in none of its activities will it discriminate against, or in any way treat
less favourably, any person on grounds of sex, sexual orientation, race,
nationality, ethnic origin, colour, religion or disability. This includes:

• The advertisement of jobs

• Job location or working environment

• Pay and employment terms and conditions

• Internal training and development activities

• External education activities and awards

• The opportunity to take part in club activities

4. Brighton and Hove Albion Football Club will not tolerate sexual or racially
based harassment or other discriminatory behaviour, whether physical or
verbal, and will work to ensure that such behaviour is met with
appropriate disciplinary behaviour in whatever context it occurs.

 

[Gully]

....its not your club.

Very true, it is our club...which is why a fair few of us are a little concerned that a group of people chose to sing a song with overtly political overtones that bear absolutely no relevance to England, Sussex or the Albion.

Cheers Lord B, that was what I was alluding to in my post...we are a community club...I would refer cunning fergus to paragraph four.

 

[Pot noodles for everyone]

Very true, it is our club...which is why a fair few of us are a little concerned that a group of people chose to sing a song with overtly political overtones that bear absolutely no relevance to England, Sussex or the Albion.

Cheers Lord B, that was what I was alluding to in my post...we are a community club...I would refer cunning fergus to paragraph four.

'sake. The singers just said that they wouldn't surrender to the IRA. It's a darn sight less political than professing to wish (and do everything in their power) to get Brighton aligned with left of centre political parties and kick out from the club's support everyone who doesn't sign up to that political ethos. That's overt, it's clear, it's not particularly democratic or morally right and it doesn't seem to bother you.

A bunch of blokes singing (ONCE) about not surrendering to a terrorist group is not going to make anyone start voting for the Democratic Unionists, not least because they don't have candidates in England.

Get a sense of proportion.

 

[The Spanish]

'sake. The singers just said that they wouldn't surrender to the IRA. It's a darn sight less political than professing to wish (and do everything in their power) to get Brighton aligned with left of centre political parties and kick out from the club's support everyone who doesn't sign up to that political ethos. That's overt, it's clear, it's not particularly democratic or morally right and it doesn't seem to bother you.

A bunch of blokes singing (ONCE) about not surrendering to a terrorist group is not going to make anyone start voting for the Democratic Unionists, not least because they don't have candidates in England.

Get a sense of proportion.

There is no chance of that with the amount of idiots here who love to tell you they once lived in Belfast/Italy/New York/Dublin/Germany delete as appropriate who know everything about f***ing everything and forget for a minute that football and the albion was once about getting on the piss and being a bit of a dickhead, and more importantly was not wrapped up in being a New Brightonion straight out of the 'lets move to' section of the guardian weekend magazine.

funny how many of the people on here have either never lived in brighton or at the very least never went to the goldstone and adopted it after it became the preserve of dull amateur politicians, self important busybodies and full of themselves lefties who have dictated support since the apocalypse. I just hope come falmer a lot of these cun ts will f*** off, their time has passed here.

Of course none of these remember copies of the bulldog being sold outside the goldstone with no political resistance, or had to fight their way back from ashton gate or fratton park with no one to depend on but the people they so snobbishly dismiss now.

f***ed UP. Only words for it.

 

[cunning fergus]

Lord Bracknell thanks for the info, but I am not....er totally wrong.

Far from it..............you just dont get it.

BHA is a football club..........its my club and I love it dearly but its not the UN or Oxfam, neither is it a movement with any political goals like some posters on here think. Mission statements and anti discrimination policies don't change anything.............the BBC's mission statement probably says it will tell the truth and be careful with licence fee payers money.

You may believe that BHA has some noble role to play in the community, but at the end of the day BHA's continual existence comes down to 2 issues: bums on seats and winning football matches. Nothing else really matters.

Me and my mates have gone for over 30 years and my Dad and his mates have have been going since the 50's. No one is telling us what our club stands for.........and what we can say or how we need to behave........we are adults so we already know.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

You may believe that BHA has some noble role to play in the community, but at the end of the day BHA's continual existence comes down to 2 issues: bums on seats and winning football matches. Nothing else really matters.

Clearly the Club believes that other things matter, or they wouldn't be saying this:-

Brighton and Hove Albion Football Club is committed to confront and
eliminate discrimination whether by reason of race, nationality, ethnic
origin, colour, religion, disability, sex or sexual orientation.

if as you believe BHA represents 'everyone regardless of their creed, religion, gender or persuasion' then the club is in the grip of Marxists.

Do you REALLY think the Marxists have taken over?

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

hahahaha i am a white man living in australia (probably of british descent) moaning about the bad white man and their treatment of the abbos. typical aussie, it wasnt me it was the bad english men done it. sorry to piss off any genuine ex pats but australia (like america) is for people whos families couldnt hack it in britain. your opinion is worth f*** all. stick to making the natives alcoholics and sexing up jenny agutter.

I am a white man of Irish descent living in Australia because my ancestors were forced off their lands with no compensation or reason for doing so other then they were Irish.

THAT'S why my family are in Australia now you stupid fuckwit.

I can sympathise with the Aboriginals because looking at my families history I can relate to what it must be like to have a bunch of deadshit English tossers try to destroy your culture and take from you what is yours, not theirs.

So I do believe its YOU who know f*** all about anything and you should shut your stupid trap.

You're so f***ing dumb you think it was Australians who made the natives alcoholics, when in fact it was once again those wonderful English invaders/settlers who started that ball rolling long before the term Australian even existed.

You really are the dumbest of the dumb and it's your opinion that means sweet f*** all.

 

[bullshit detector]

There is no chance of that with the amount of idiots here who love to tell you they once lived in Belfast/Italy/New York/Dublin/Germany delete as appropriate who know everything about f***ing everything and forget for a minute that football and the albion was once about getting on the piss and being a bit of a dickhead, and more importantly was not wrapped up in being a New Brightonion straight out of the 'lets move to' section of the guardian weekend magazine.

funny how many of the people on here have either never lived in brighton or at the very least never went to the goldstone and adopted it after it became the preserve of dull amateur politicians, self important busybodies and full of themselves lefties who have dictated support since the apocalypse. I just hope come falmer a lot of these cun ts will f*** off, their time has passed here.

Of course none of these remember copies of the bulldog being sold outside the goldstone with no political resistance, or had to fight their way back from ashton gate or fratton park with no one to depend on but the people they so snobbishly dismiss now.

f***ed UP. Only words for it.

Look. mate, there are far more of us 'lefties' than there are of you - and there were in the 70s too, you must be senile if you think there was no political resistance to Beaky and Co outside the Goldstone.You're also barking up the wrong tree if you think we are all latte/Guardian reading types, I am not a keyboard warrior and I shall say no more about that. I go to the Albion to watch the football and leave my politics at the turnstile. I suggest everyone else does the same. Otherwise we are going to end up with Albion fans fighting each other and that would be absolutely bloody pathetic.

 

[pork pie]

You clearly haven't got a clue where the chant came from, then. It has about as much relevance to England as a Saltire does. But then again, those that chant it are generally a bit dim...

You may also be interested to know that religion had very little part to play in nationalist politics until the British government made it have one by partitioning on religious lines. The first President of Ireland was protestant, as was the chief negotiator for the Treaty, as were many of the leaders in the Rising and the War of Independence (and some of those that weren't were atheist, there was by no means a Catholic majority). Effectively all the leaders in the 1798 Rebellion were. However, they were mostly Anglican - the whole idea that Catholics were the sole 'agressors' so to speak was invented by the Presbyterians. It wasn't helped by the second government of Ireland writing a constitution based on Catholic ethos, but this was never the intent or desire of the original founders.

Sunshine, I don't give a flying f*** what has happened in Paddyland in the past. The song is a good rousing ENGLISH song - a country that I am proud to have been born in. A nation which has a proud history of imperialism over many centuries.

 

[pork pie]

I beg to differ, he sounds like a reasonably balanced bloke who has just put up the counter argument, if you can sing all your red hand rubbish songs then surely it must be acceptable to sing rubbish republican ones as well...in a warped attempt to even things out...or something like that!

Not as an englishman. The singing of the song is not so much a show of support for the Northern Irish Loyalists (who I obviously do sympathise with as a loyal englishman), but that the english will not be made to back down because of a IRA activities on the Mainland.

 

[readingstockport]

Sunshine, I don't give a flying f*** what has happened in Paddyland in the past.

So why sing a pointless song about what happened in paddyland in the past? And the song ISN'T English. it originates in NI, not a part of England.

 

[chez]

So why sing a pointless song about what happened in paddyland in the past? And the song ISN'T English. it originates in NI, not a part of England.

The words relate to England though, at least the ones we are discussing do.

It really doesn't matter where a song originated from either does it? If it did we would all be asking why we sing about yellow submarines when remembering Wardy.

 

[Dosser]

As a Scot who thought he had left all this ##### behind him, can someone try to explain (in simple terms) what any of these sectarian songs have to do with the Albion?

I've re-read the posts on this thread several times and I am still struggling to understand the connection.

The sectarian #### that goes on in Scotland is considered (by most) to be a cancer of both the game, and the nation. Perhaps the Old Firm really will be at home in England