terryberry1
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He cant handle pressure.
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Who Do You Want As Next England Manager?
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He cant handle pressure.
turienzo's lovechild
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yes that was a good season..........ONE good season, along with a 5th placed finish last year, a decent couple of years at west ham and one fa cup win
in 20 plus years of management
compare that to say, jose........or plenty of other foreign managers and surely you can see that the best option is not an english one
Cite an example? Did fine at Villa for a few years with unrealistic expectations.
Harry is a LONG way from being a quality manager. It's just because he's so English, I think people see a bit of the Winston Churchill in him, and assume he would make a great leader of our glorious country. His managerial record should be filed under "nothing special".
Still rather him than f*cking Rafa Benitez though.
What credentials? One FA Cup victory in 20 years of management?
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Of course he is the reason they got to the Champions League - that and Liverpool's timely collapse blowing open the doors for them. You can't deny that. But as somebody else has said elsewhere on this thread, we'd all be livid if we appointed a foreigner who having been a manager for 28 years has a CV of one national cup win and one fourth place finish in his achievements section.
You say nobody else English has the credentials. Well, you could point to Steve McClarens CV - one national cup, taking a far smaller team than Spurs in Middlesbrough into Europe and a final and being the only Englishman around to have won a national league title with one of the most unfashionable sides in Holland - and quite rightly say that it is better than Redknapps.
And we all know how going down the English route worked out that time
tottenhamseagull
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He's as English as Jose Mourinho. I know who I'd prefer out of those 2.
turienzo's lovechild
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o'neill is fine......would probably do a decent job, not amazing but decent
i generally quite like him so would be quite patient with him, but i can't see him getting us any further than the 2nd round or quarter finals (ie how far the last two foreign managers have got us)
i generally quite like him so would be quite patient with him, but i can't see him getting us any further than the 2nd round or quarter finals (ie how far the last two foreign managers have got us)
That is 100% my view as well. Hodgson is I think too heavily-tainted with his failures at Liverpool and Blackburn. He's done well abroad, but his achievements are modest when compared to Capello's - and look how easily his have been dismissed. The glib view of Hodgson seems to be that he's ok at little clubs and nations (Fulham and Switzerland), but he can't handle big clubs, big players and big expectations.
Like you I've no objection to a foreign coach (although even there I'm struggling to think of a truly outstanding candidate), but if the xenophobes have their way and say the new guy must be English and if Redknapp's health and other 'baggage' count against him - who else is there? The suggestions of Pardew and Adkins aren't as ridiculous as they first sound!
terryberry1
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Who would you have then Sherlock?
brakespear
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This.
Was tempted to start a new thread about this, but Football Weekly hit upon an interesting stat recently:
"King" Kenny's WDL record since retaking over as 'Pool manager is WORSE than Roy Hodgson's was in his tenure there.
Shows exactly how easily the media can skew the perceptions of two managers in either direction. And how thick some fans are.
"King" Kenny's WDL record since retaking over as 'Pool manager is WORSE than Roy Hodgson's was in his tenure there.
Shows exactly how easily the media can skew the perceptions of two managers in either direction. And how thick some fans are.
Anyone with a better record, perhaps?
Hmm interesting. I wonder what 'Aldo' and the other Liverpool fans on here think of that? They were unanimous in declaring that Dalglish was FAR better than Hodgson.
The Large One
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Quick question(s) - to all those who advocate that the next England manager must be English, I ask you 'why?'
What's in it for the England national team?
What's in it for the England national team?
turienzo's lovechild
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i also heard this, was surprised to say the least! really don't think he was given enough time at liverpool.........he also got inter to a uefa cup final, which isn't bad
as for the media skewing perceptions..........guess who's sitting proudly at the top of the pile of england managers in terms of win %
(give everyone a clue, he isn't english)
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
Almost as surprising is how Villas Boas is stacking up against Scolari...
Solari, start of 2008/09 season:
P12 W9 D2 L1 pts 29
position: Top.
Villas-Boas, start of 2011/12 season:
P12 W7 D1 L4 pts 22
position: 5th.
Scolari managed to hang on to his job until 9 February 2009, his league record at time of sacking:
P25 D7 L4 pts 49
position: 4th.
Tricky Dicky
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So, no then. They have no chance of finishing in the top 5. Their next two games are against United then Chelsea and the table will look more familiar after that I suspect - although I'd be quite happy for them to still be there. I don't think Pardew will be a serious contender - and I have nothing against him.
The Large One
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A tragic indictment of the pervading mentality - suggesting someone whose principle target is to strive to be manager of the fifth best team in England, irrespective of whether the FA could attract or afford anyone better from across the world.
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as for capello's "awful" record in tournaments........here are the england managers who have performed worse or equal to capello in their first tournament
-Walter Winterbottom
-Alf Ramsey
-Don Revie
-Ron Greenwood
-Bobby Robson
-Graham Taylor
-Glenn Hoddle
-Kevin Keegan
-Steve Mclaren
ie. all of them apart from venables and sven
the one ho equaled fabio (hoddle) inherited a team that had just reached the semi finals of euro 96..........fabio inherited a team that had failed to qualify for euro 2008
-Walter Winterbottom
-Alf Ramsey
-Don Revie
-Ron Greenwood
-Bobby Robson
-Graham Taylor
-Glenn Hoddle
-Kevin Keegan
-Steve Mclaren
ie. all of them apart from venables and sven
the one ho equaled fabio (hoddle) inherited a team that had just reached the semi finals of euro 96..........fabio inherited a team that had failed to qualify for euro 2008