The Argus names the arrested Albion players

[Nathan]

I think it was Ian Hislop who said this week at the levison enquiry something about the laws for the media are not enforced. They are not allowed to print names and photos of the accused, but they do, and nothing is done about it. As was the case with Joanne Yates landlord bloke. They need to be careful about what they say and what they imply - but the police or whoever governs them needs to get tougher and enforce the law..

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

How come it's in the paper but not on the Argus website?

People have to pay for the paper.

 

[n1 gull]

How come it's in the paper but not on the Argus website?

if it was on the website you wouldn't buy the paper

 

[Deleted member 18477]

People have to pay for the paper.

certainly not buying the shit paper just to find out who's been accused. i'd rather not even know if thats how i have to find out FFS!

 

[Nathan]

What do you mean 'risk possible prosecution'?

Assuming the Argus' source was an official one - Sussex Police's Press Officer, for example - the Argus is within its rights to publish the names of the accused. I haven't read the report, so I don't what exactly has been said, but if they've stuck to the hard facts, I struggle to see what the issue is. If they had implied guilt (something that the Mirror and the Sun did with that case in Bristol last year, and they were found guilty of Contempt of Court), that's where problems start occurring for them, the accused and the case.

Whether the media should be allowed to publish the names of the accused ahead of any prosecution and conviction (i.e. calling for the accused to have a right to anonymity until conviction) is another debate entirely.

When does it become invasion of privacy?

 

[Westdene Seagull]

What do you mean 'risk possible prosecution'?

Assuming the Argus' source was an official one - Sussex Police's Press Officer, for example - the Argus is within its rights to publish the names of the accused. I haven't read the report, so I don't what exactly has been said, but if they've stuck to the hard facts, I struggle to see what the issue is. If they had implied guilt (something that the Mirror and the Sun did with that case in Bristol last year, and they were found guilty of Contempt of Court), that's where problems start occurring for them, the accused and the case.

Whether the media should be allowed to publish the names of the accused ahead of any prosecution and conviction (i.e. calling for the accused to have a right to anonymity until conviction) is another debate entirely.

I was referring to the second stickie.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

certainly not buying the shit paper just to find out who's been accused. i'd rather not even know if thats how i have to find out FFS!

That is up to you - but the clue is in the name. Newspaper.

 

[Husty]

certainly not buying the shit paper just to find out who's been accused. i'd rather not even know if thats how i have to find out FFS!

It's in big bold letters on the front page, it's also all over Twitter.

 

[Deleted member 18477]

That is up to you - but the clue is in the name. Newspaper.

its hardly news is it. who gives a shit whos been accused. its about the justice at the end of the day. until the case is closed no one really needs to know the names. the argus can f*** off! shit paper, shit journalists, shit 'news'!

 

[The Large One]

When does it become invasion of privacy?

Against whom - the accused?

A further debate again. Certainly standing outside someone's house offers little value, for example, though they still do it.

 

[c0lz]

I hope the club cut all ties with the Argus now, I also will no longer buy this paper, maybe a sports NSC paper ,

 

[The Large One]

I was referring to the second stickie.

OK, but the point still stands. When Nic (OTLW) says 'discuss' the case, I suggest he means more 'speculate'.

The Argus would have printed information given to them by Sussex Police.

 

[chucky1973]

reading twitter rumours (which I know is bad) I have come acorss 7 names so far, cant buy the blooming argus at Gatwick, so I am feeling frustrated currently.

 

[Billy the Fish]

I keep saying it on these threads, welcome to the age of trial by media.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

It's not so much that the 5 have been named, as they could have been named within the article, but that the Argus has chosen to used a very large font so that the names are very visible. Regardless of whether they are charged, or innocent or guilty, mud sticks.

 

[hitony]

I hope the club cut all ties with the Argus now, I also will no longer buy this paper, maybe a sports NSC paper ,

I do actually get most of my news / information now via NSC, so many people cover all the worlds events and put links to everything...its like a free paper anyway....good on you NSC members

 

[Bozza]

reading twitter rumours (which I know is bad) I have come acorss 7 names so far, cant buy the blooming argus at Gatwick, so I am feeling frustrated currently.

Search the stream of tweets sent to @northstandchat - there are copies of the front page of the Argus there.

 

[hitony]

I keep saying it on these threads, welcome to the age of trial by media.

If you have to keep saying it...does that mean no one is listening to you

 

[Smythe]

The Argus is on its knees , sales have plummeted in recent years, staff have been cut to the bone and journalists laid off. They saw an opprtunity to sell a shit load of papers and took it. I don actually think they are in the wrong, per se, but I strongly believe that people who have been " accused " of a crime like this should be given anonimity until the outcome of a trial. That is whats wrong.

I agree.......as the police do everything in their power not to identify the alledged "victim", they should do the same for the "accused"......not as easy i guess when its higher profile people. There is also the possibility that The Argus ran this by the club and the club were ok with them printing the names.

 

[El Presidente]

reading twitter rumours (which I know is bad) I have come acorss 7 names so far, cant buy the blooming argus at Gatwick, so I am feeling frustrated currently.

If you are frustrated you are better off buying a copy of Razzle rather than The Argus.