Sparrow and Vincelot / Poyet weilds axe (SIX merrged threads)

[Zebedee]

Too late in what respect? None of us have any idea when he was offered his new deal. All we have is the date when the club made public that he had a deal on the table, and had not signed it. He may have been sitting on it for months (in the knowledge that he had options elsewhere).

It was very near the end of his contact; and I know that for a fact.

 

[StonehamPark]

Really shouldn't have loaned JFC out. Should be competing for a first team place here.

 

[deletebeepbeepbeep]

From [MENTION=24657]matty[/MENTION]Sparrow10 on Twitter

"Well u find out something new everyday..."

Haven't we learned from the Hoskins debacle?

 

[huge]

I'm surprised about Romain being on the shit list. He's looked ok on the field but maybe he doesn't pull his weight in training?

I did wonder if Gus is just looking to off load players who are on the shortest time left on contracts? Would be interesting to see if that is the case. Could see a lot of squad going next year too?

 

[Captain Sensible]

This is all very confusing JFC out on season loan. sparrow out!?!? Vincelot out !?!? And Harley and dicker stay?
Elphick out !?!? Cook out !?!? No CB coming in? It's just all a bit wierd. If Sparrow has only just found that out then that's bang out of order!

I can't understand, after being knocked out out the league cup with a terrible performance from Dicker&Harley, that suddenly the two players he should have been playing instead, are told they are up for the chop.

I'm mean WTF??

 

[Greavsey]

Sparrows Tweet:

Matty Sparrow ‏[MENTION=24657]matty[/MENTION]Sparrow10
Well u find out something new everyday...

Think this is exactly one of the reasons why he wants Sparrow out over what we might perceive as players with less ability. He has a reputation for being a bit of a boy about town, and as we saw with the Dickenson, Tunnicliffe possé Gus doesn't stand for that!

 

[peterward]

I would prefer to have sparrow than Harley

totally this, Spaz may be a bit hit and miss, but he had a good patch last season, scored a couple and he's not afraid to put himself about. He can be quite good when his form is good, he's better overall than Dicker imho

Ryan Harley has done NOTHING except 1 free kick, he's utter dog shite, weak, a complete bottler and waste of space

 

[jackalbion]

If its to do with freeing up wages I wouldn't expect vincelot is on a lot and Harley is on about 7k why won't harley go he's like the 15 year old cat that won't die/go away

 

[sir danny cullip]

Think this is exactly one of the reasons why he wants Sparrow out over what we might perceive as players with less ability. He has a reputation for being a bit of a boy about town, and as we saw with the Dickenson, Tunnicliffe possé Gus doesn't stand for that!

You say that but if you're suggesting Sparrow is a 'boy around town' for tweeting what he thinks then the same applies to Hoskins, Noone and many others all of whom Poyet signed (including Sparrow). The difference between Sparrow and the ones you mention is that Poyet didn't sign them.

 

[jackalbion]

Harley why hasn't he gone

 

[NorthStandN1A]

Is it just me or does anyone else feel that Gus has made a big mistake here. Aside from the "it should be Harley & Dicker" comments, how can Gus publicly slag off two players he wants rid of. How is this going to attract interest from other clubs?

 

[Greavsey]

You say that but if you're suggesting Sparrow is a 'boy around town' for tweeting what he thinks then the same applies to Hoskins, Noone and many others all of whom Poyet signed (including Sparrow). The difference between Sparrow and the ones you mention is that Poyet didn't sign them.

Yep and I think Hoskins would have also gone in this window had he stayed fit, for, amongst other things, his Twitter rants. When has Noone ever come out on Twitter making a self serving statement like that? Can't remember it even when he was on the verge of a move to Cardiff...

 

[Captain Sensible]

Why now? Why axe them now? They didn't play last night so there's no fall out from that.
It doesn't make sense.

f***ing Harley, he had a real chance to shine last night and did f*** all as usual.

 

[El Turi]

Sparrows Tweet:

Matty Sparrow ‏[MENTION=24657]matty[/MENTION]Sparrow10
Well u find out something new everyday...

Worringly that sounds to me like he's found this out from the argus.

 

[Springal]

Why now? Why axe them now? They didn't play last night so there's no fall out from that.
It doesn't make sense.

f***ing Harley, he had a real chance to shine last night and did f*** all as usual.

Maybe, just maybe, because at this stage of the pre-season/season players should be putting in 110% and working hard, and possibly they are not.

 

[Pinkie Brown]

This will sound like a stuck record, but the decision to basically tell Sparrow & Vincelot, they are not welcome is bizarre. Harley & Dicker simply aren't up to Championship quality. Sparrow in particular, had a good season when he returned to the team.

Another alternative theory? Is this Gus trying some reverse psychology on these two players? Tell them they're not wanted, then see if they have the drive & willpower to prove him wrong? I think 'the problems' are more likely down to personality clashes or training ground issue's, rather than ability on the pitch?

Whatever, I'm sure we don't know the full picture.

 

[sir danny cullip]

Yep and I think Hoskins would have also gone in this window had he stayed fit, for, amongst other things, his Twitter rants. When has Noone ever come out on Twitter making a self serving statement like that? Can't remember it even when he was on the verge of a move to Cardiff...

Being forced out and being offered the option of a lucrative move to Cardiff are two very different things. From what I have seen Sparrow has been the ultimate pro since his arrival, you're suggesting he's a bit of a 'bad egg' that needs getting rid of but he's one of Gus' signings. He may not quite have lived up to the performance levels Gus expects but I can't imagine he's being forced out due to some kind of attitude problem.

 

[NickBHAFC18]

Is it just me or does anyone else feel that Gus has made a big mistake here. Aside from the "it should be Harley & Dicker" comments, how can Gus publicly slag off two players he wants rid of. How is this going to attract interest from other clubs?

Gus hasn't publicly slagged them off, he has just told the truth. He's said they can stay, but they should be looking elsewhere if they want regular game time. I think that's a fair statement as "harsh" at it may seem.

 

[sir danny cullip]

Yep and I think Hoskins would have also gone in this window had he stayed fit, for, amongst other things, his Twitter rants. When has Noone ever come out on Twitter making a self serving statement like that? Can't remember it even when he was on the verge of a move to Cardiff...

On Hoskins I think you're right, Gus has never accepted his willingness to jump ship to Sheff Utd when he did.

 

[Captain Sensible]

Maybe, just maybe, because at this stage of the pre-season/season players should be putting in 110% and working hard, and possibly they are not.

Harley puts in 110%?

I can only go on what I see on the pitch, Spaz and Vince show alot more passion and effort than Harley or Dicker.

Gus has had a whole season with them last year. He should know who puts in a shift and who doesn't.