Serbia v England U21 - racism and stuff [Merged]

[WATFORD zero]

If the chants were going on before the goal then I'm disappointed with psycho. This shit has been going on long enough and someone should have the balls to stand up to it.

He should have taken the team off the pitch and forced them to abandon the match. Then see what the twats at UEFA and FIFA do. Award the points against us for backing the 'kick out racism' campaign ?

 

[Chesney Christ]

No surprise, but there's some crushing stupidity on this thread.

If someone cannot tell the difference between

A) Us being mocked for being "gay" or Wayne Bridge getting stick for off-field incidents (although admittedly probably quite hurtful for the lad)

and

B) A black man getting MONKEY chants

.... then they are so pitifully stupid and uneducated that you may as well argue with a blind Spanish caterpillar about quantim physics. Don't waste your time.

Thus, these people should be ignored and pitied, and I would suggest that you don't respond to their "trolling", which would sidetrack an otherwise interesting debate.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

If the chants were going on before the goal then I'm disappointed with psycho. This shit has been going on long enough and someone should have the balls to stand up to it.

He should have taken the team off the pitch and forced them to abandon the match. Then see what the twats at UEFA and FIFA do. Award the points against us for backing the 'kick out racism' campaign ?

If the England team had left the pitch the result would have been recorded as a 3-0 victory to Serbia , a £250k fine from EUFA and Sepp Blatter recommending England's expulsion as a FIFA associate member.

 

[mikeyjh]

No surprise, but there's some crushing stupidity on this thread.

If someone cannot tell the difference between

A) Us being mocked for being "gay" or Wayne Bridge getting stick for off-field incidents (although admittedly probably quite hurtful for the lad)

and

B) A black man getting MONKEY chants

.... then they are so pitifully stupid and uneducated that you may as well argue with a blind Spanish caterpillar about quantim physics. Don't waste your time.

Thus, these people should be ignored and pitied, and I would suggest that you don't respond to their "trolling", which would sidetrack an otherwise interesting debate.

Is correct - I'm not one to defend homophobic chanting, but trying to compare "does your boyfriend know you're here?" with monkey chants is way off the mark.... I was going to expand, but realise I've already given the troll a titbit, so will stop there....

 

[mikeyjh]

I'm certain he showed a yellow first.

He did - You have to congratulate the referee for his determination in finding his way through the missiles, flying fists etc and booking the black man who kicked the ball away.....

 

[somerset]

They were fighting with Croats, were they not?

....and the Croats were just Nazis who spoke another language in the second WW... so you see that extremism in the various Balkan states is a way of life,.. left or right of the centre ground.... corrupt and criminal.

 

[HawkTheSeagull]

Not sure that you can appeal yellow cards?

It was a yellow, then a red. It wouldnt be appealing the yellow though, it would be appealing the ban - which if UEFA is truly racism they will remove/drop it to the previous 1 yellow card.

Its clear racism so punishment must be taken, trouble is - this is an U21 match so UEFA will probably treat it as such and just punish them - rather than Serbian football itself. You also need to look at the missiles being thrown at the players and the Serbian officials attacking England staff - that will also surely result in a hefty punishment.

 

[albion534]

Everybody knows what's going to happen....

Serbia will get a slap on the wrist, a £20,000 fine and 5 matches behind closed doors

Ad England will get a £100,000 fine for not controlling their players

 

[chrissyboy01]

Can't this all be settled with a handshake?

 

[Publius Ovidius]

The referee only applied the laws of the game , Rose got the 2nd yellow for unsportsmanlike conduct. There will now be an appeal to have the 2nd yellow card rescinded which is following the correct procedure.

actually that is the best thing that could have happened, because no doubt the England set up will appeal it and present evidence that FIFA will have to look at, basically that there was racial abuse and he was provoked.

Be interesting to see how Blatter anmd Platini get out of this one

 

[maltaseagull]

Absolute disgrace. Danny Rose sent off for kicking the ball at baying Serbian neo nazi fans.

Seriously if England fans behaved like that we would be banned for f***ing EVER.

Apparently we do have a minority. I was having a discussion with a colleague and he said the English fans can be racist too. (He is Maltese)

England fans condemned for racist chanting - Telegraph

 

[Neil]

plus what about the incessant throwing of stones on the pitch by the Serbian fans.
Bet that gets brushed under the carpet.

 

[Everest]

Then see what the twats at UEFA and FIFA do. Award the points against us for backing the 'kick out racism' campaign ?

They'll never do that.

It wasn't a group game.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

actually that is the best thing that could have happened, because no doubt the England set up will appeal it and present evidence that FIFA will have to look at, basically that there was racial abuse and he was provoked.

Be interesting to see how Blatter anmd Platini get out of this one

Will they use the "just a bit of banter" excuse ?

 

[glasfryn]

astounding
in the words of our Kenny Everett
bomb the bastards

 

[BBassic]

It is thoroughly depressing that people still exist who think skin colour is a good enough reason for hurling abuse.

 

[Czechmate]

Look , i am not racist and i deplore , like anyone else what happened , but you imagine NSC if it was around 35 years ago , nobody would utter one word about it , we were just as bad even worse the longer our history went back . Not sure if they watch other European football but black people are pretty new to them , hardly any in their country or Croatia or other contries around these areas , yes they are sad at what they did but don't forget Britain was a lot worse , remember the Brixton riots ? probably not ! BUT THEY WILL LEARN , but unfortuantely it won't be overnight like people on here think should or will happen, it will take years.

Croatia v Serbia should be interesting in March next year

 

[Pavilionaire]

....and the Croats were just Nazis who spoke another language in the second WW... so you see that extremism in the various Balkan states is a way of life,.. left or right of the centre ground.... corrupt and criminal.

Hang on a minute, let's get our history correct here. Croatia in WW2 was split between the Ustashi Nazi sympathisers and Tito's Communist sympathiser Partisans. The Partisan resistance grew in strength until the Ustashi were eventually overthrown before the end of the war.

Croatia in WW2 was basically a civil war and more Croats were killed by other Croats than by Axis forces. My grandfather was one of those killed, though f*** knows which side he was on.

 

[glasfryn]

Look , i am not racist and i deplore , like anyone else what happened , but you imagine NSC if it was around 35 years ago , nobody would utter one word about it , we were just as bad even worse the longer our history went back . Not sure if they watch other European football but black people are pretty new to them , hardly any in their country or Croatia or other contries around these areas , yes they are sad at what they did but don't forget Britain was a lot worse , remember the Brixton riots ? probably not ! BUT THEY WILL LEARN , but unfortuantely it won't be overnight like people on here think should or will happen, it will take years.

Croatia v Serbia should be interesting in March next year

I would have
and I am sorry to say the Serbs are pariahs ..................they don't like anyone

 

[sam86]

BBC Sport - Sportsday - breaking sports news
The Serbian FA denies any forms of racism towards the England Under-21 team last night and says defender Danny Rose behaved in an "inappropriate, unsportsmanlike and vulgar manner" towards their fans.

Un-f***ing-believable.