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mcghee slates ckr
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Uncle C
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CKRs effect on BHA spread much further than his lack of passion on the park.
His arrogance affected dressing room team spirit and this in turn meant a lack of team coherence on the park.
What good would Ronaldo be to a team if he pissed off his team mates and they wouldn't involve him in the play.
His arrogance affected dressing room team spirit and this in turn meant a lack of team coherence on the park.
What good would Ronaldo be to a team if he pissed off his team mates and they wouldn't involve him in the play.
Sorry, but amongst SOME truth, there's more bollocks in that too. Search and you'll find that I, along with many others RAVED about O'Callaghan's ability, sadly not matched by his subsequent attitude. At least O'Callaghan TRIED during games.
CKR was NO USE to Brighton, as he didn't want to play. Nothing he has done since or will ever do in the future can change that. He was a waste of a shirt.
And on your last point, there are INTERNATIONAL FOOTBALLERS in league one [and 2, and the conference.]
Arthur
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Hmmmm no work ethic?? The bloke is playing at the highest level in Europe! He's done that (as McGoo suggests) by luck I take it??
Turn up drunk to training?? When?
Physically unable to even run a lap of the pitch? Again when?
Put zero effort on the field of play?? Well I'll give you that one but in his defence that was after the fall out McGhoo.
Of less playing worth to the club than other players?? Quite clearly, we disgracefully let him go for next to nothing and despite only being there 5 minutes and not exactly setting the world alight at Sheff U they were able to sell for over 10X what they paid for him. So yes he was worth a damn sight more than ALL of the other players PUT TOGETHER!
I think you are mixing up PLAYING WORTH with financial value.
can you actually explain how he has done it then? everyone defending him says how technically gifted he is and how much "potential and ability" he has. when has he shown it? championship level with us, 6 goals was it in 43 or something? 1 goal for sheff united.. never starting regularly. then moving to a champs league club for peanuts (for them) again being back up to a squad full of average individuals (bar a few) and scoring not very many still. he is a striker who does not score goals. what does he offer for all these teams?
Arthur
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Not at all! His playing worth represents his financial value. We clearly didn't know anything about either!
Yeah he didn't pull up trees here but the fact he was sold on for 10X what we sold him for after doing equally as little at Sheff U suggests we f***ed up by letting him go so cheap in quite a major way!
In the near 30 years I've watched the Albion, the fans favourite players have included;
Peter Ward
Steve Foster
Steve Penney
Terry Connor
John Crumplin
Clive Walker
Dean Saunders
Garry Nelson
Peter Smith!
Ian Chapman
Bobby Zamora
Nicky Forster
Tommy Elphick
I'd say there was a very even split between flair and effort, there.
In the case of Fener, a Turkish Passport. There, quota rules are quite strict, so he is of benefit to them. They would not have been in the slightest bit interested in a CKR without that, and nor would any other Champions League team in Europe.
The phrase flatters to deceive is a good way to describe him. He reminds me of a young player who has loads of talent but doesn't knowhow to utalise it best in games so tends to dip in and out. The trouble is he has been around long enough now to have started to show some consistent form but the trouble is he hasn't.
I really don't know what to comment on his attitude as there seems to be a lot of conflicting info with regards to that.
I really don't know what to comment on his attitude as there seems to be a lot of conflicting info with regards to that.
Sorry, I've done him an injustice. I've just checked, and he's actually scored THREE goals in his 75 appearances since he left us, not two.
Uncle Spielberg
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and i have just checked and his mighty turkey that he represents tonight, have a simply woeful record in every aspect. the fact they're playing tonight, does not prove anything about any of their players, other than the fact they are resilient. greece won it last time remember. i doubt many here could name more than a few of their squad that year
Costadinis
Dellas
Dabizas
Stelios
Nikolidis
Popadodadodipalopidoplis
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Dellas
Dabizas
Stelios
Nikolidis
Popadodadodipalopidoplis
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Uncle C
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You what? Turkey have a WOEFUL record? Yeah, so woeful that tonight they'll be playing a European semi-final
And what's so awful about resilience? I'm not saying it's good to watch, but in the international arena you can only play with the cards you're dealt. Would you prefer it if all the nations with fewest household names got knocked out early on purpose? I say well done to Turkey for getting as far as they have
yes. woeful. Turkey national football team - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
look it up you pleb.
nothing is wrong with resilience whatsoever. and sure, well done to them for scraping through. my point was, however, that they are hardly a successful footballing nation, and the quality of their individual players is not overwhelming. so however CKR managed to worm his way into the outskirts of their squad is not the biggest achievement for an english professional footballer.
