For Anyone Thinking Of Voting Conservative...

[cunning fergus]

With apologies as I know this is a football chatboard ( to which I often contribute ), but I have to get this of my chest ahead of Thursday.

Be very careful if you're thinking of voting for the Tories looking for a change for the better. I can remember the Thatcher era and believe me, it was not nice. Cameron talks about a compassionate outlook...mmm, let me think about that for a second. The prospect of Cameron and Osborne at the helm of this country fills me with absolute dread. Also, Cameron's warning of the dangers of a hung parliament is quite contrary to the expectation and hope of many people who think a coalition ( much better calling it that, rather than a hung parliament ) - hopefully between the Lib Dems and Labour, will produce a more balanced and less autocratic Government.

I will be voting Lib Dem in Mid Sussex and, hopefully, if others follow suit, we will be rid of Nicholas Soames - another one who fills me with despair.

Rant over.

Up the Albion.

Let me get this right, you do not consider that the Labour Government we have had for the last 13 years has not been very autocratic?

Don't know where the f*** you have been living sunshine but in the last 13 years but Labour have introduced nearly 4500 new laws. Archbold, the barristers’ handbook, describes the government’s approach as a “disgrace”.

The most recent edition of the book has had to condense its typeface to cram in the laws, which its publisher describes as an “explosion of activity”. The preface to the latest edition complains that there is “far too much criminal legislation” and attacks the government’s habit of “legislating by trial and error”.

Lets not start on the ID cards eh.

 

[BLOCK F]

You'll notice that I upgraded you from 'moron' to 'simpleton' with a nifty edit

Yes Tom,I did see that and had to laugh!

 

[CAPTAIN GREALISH]

would not votr labour country been going down hill for 10years who will i be voting for/? dont kow

 

[beorhthelm]

Lets not start on the ID cards eh.

no lets. a massive centralised system that will not deliver any of the intended results, using technology people in the industry know isnt fit for purpose. originally kicked off as part of the US requirement that all passports have biometric data, it morphed and grew into a £10billion project, while we got embedded digital photos on the actual passports thus meeting the US's objective. then it was attempted to repurpose the ID card as curing all social ills, terrorism, benefit fraud, illegal immigration, ID theft, etc. but you have to be in the system for it to achieve any of these. THen they seemed to drop it, only for it to reemerge as a "voluntary" scheme... that will apparently solve all those issues still.

a few weeks ago Alan johnson had the cheek to claim it wouldnt cost anything, it would be self funding. everything funded by the government is funded by us, to be self funding it whould need to be compulsory and quite expensive - an ID tax.

 

[FREDBINNEY]

You been living in a cave or something?

Do the words 'Sub-prime lending' ring a bell? 'Credit crunch?' maybe? 'Global recession'?

Simpleton.

Do the words 'poured billions of pounds down the drain leaving us not nearly as well placed to weather the storm as we should have been ' mean anything to you ?

Simpeton.

 

[FREDBINNEY]

Tory policy.. rob the Poor and give to the Rich.. bloody good news!

for taxi drivers ??

 

[Gwylan]

no lets. a massive centralised system that will not deliver any of the intended results, using technology people in the industry know isnt fit for purpose. originally kicked off as part of the US requirement that all passports have biometric data, it morphed and grew into a £10billion project, while we got embedded digital photos on the actual passports thus meeting the US's objective. then it was attempted to repurpose the ID card as curing all social ills, terrorism, benefit fraud, illegal immigration, ID theft, etc. but you have to be in the system for it to achieve any of these. THen they seemed to drop it, only for it to reemerge as a "voluntary" scheme... that will apparently solve all those issues still.

a few weeks ago Alan johnson had the cheek to claim it wouldnt cost anything, it would be self funding. everything funded by the government is funded by us, to be self funding it whould need to be compulsory and quite expensive - an ID tax.

What he said.

And don't even mention the Digital Economy Act, one of the worst laws I've ever seen in my lifetime.

 

[Brian Fantana]

I will be casting my 'vote for change' on Thursday. As much as I love Vince Cable, I can't stand the thought of Nick Clegg being anywhere near No.10.

Brown has been one of the worst PMs Britain has ever had, as well as being one of the worst Chancellors we have ever had too.

Quite an achievement, really.

 

[Bwian]

Remember-by voting Tory on Thursday we will see twats like Phil Collins and Jim Davidson returning to the UK to live-after promising to leave the UK all the while Labour were in power. Do you want that on your conscience?

 

[hans kraay fan club]

There's no comparison between the two eras.

Cameron and Osborne are nice but dim. Tory Lite.

Whereas Thatcher was one evil malevolent bitch.

On the nail.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Why was Thatcher evil?

 

[simmo]

In every day life as individuals, there are things that we need to spend money on, now some of these things are a necessity (eg food) and some are luxuries (eg jewellery) and it is the same in the government, but we should all be aware of our limits and how much money we have to spend. If you or a friend you knew was like this with their spending and always overspent how much money they had you would call them reckless, but this is what Labour do everytime they get into power............they always, always, always, spend money we don't have leaving us worse than broke, in massive debt. Their whole philosphy of nanny state and big government means the state becomes larger and has to spend more and more and more money it does not have and which is why we always end up in financial disaster under Labour.

But this time it is even worse, before the banking crisis, during the boom times say 2006-7 we were still running a very large deficit with all Labour's spending pledges, now after the crisis and the recession has hit because revenues from taxes are so much lower but they haven't made barely any cuts, it is massive, truly enormous, it is by far the worst it has ever been by some considerable distance.

 

[HampshireSeagulls]

Why was Thatcher evil?

Because she stole their milk when they were in primary school. Seriously, some of these people don't really remember life under the Sainted One, they just regurgitate the shite that older posters type. She made some mistakes, but putting the unions in their place was not one of them. She encouraged personal achievement, not the concept of plastic socialism that the Labour party wanted (ie, they still wanted lots of money, they just wanted other people to share theirs a bit more). She was certainly no worse than this current shower of shite, and was arguably the possessor of a larger pair of bollocks than this current Jock twat and the smiling prat who preceded him.

 

[Danny-Boy]

Under Labour social mobility has decreased,the gap between rich and poor has increased,unemployment in the 16-25 age group is at record levels, claimants on incapacity benefit have trebled the prison population has grown by 25000,the drug and drink problem is a national disgrace could he Tories do any worse?

Yes.

I think you've got to be a bit gay to like the idea of Thatcher back, or her kind of government, it's like being mentally pi**ed on by women.

And flogging off all the utilities and railway network, that was like "Pound in the Attic" on a national scale. And SHE claimed it would give the people the right to benefit themselves from share ownership.

All "the people" did was flog the shares off when they could and take a holiday abroad, thus removing all the capital out of the country for all time.

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

In this whole discussion about financial regulation of the markets it did occur to me just how selfish and hypocritical us Brits really are. Yes Gordon Brown certainly has made some mistakes, but at the end of the day it was US who ran up these vast debts, not the government. If Tony Blair and Gordon Brown are guilty of anything, it is giving the British people too much financial freedom, which we subsequently have abused. And now we have the temerity to blame Gordon Brown for said debt. It really is the highest hypocrisy.

And now it looks as if David Cameron is going to become PM, and with him will come some serious cuts and serious hardship. Will we end up hating him for making these cuts, when it has largely all been our own fault?

I really do despair with the British people, for proving that in reality we are no different to the Greeks, when for decades, nay centuries, we have kidded ourselves that we are superior. Cuts are cuts, and we will feel them just the same, and with the same degree of objection.

As an addendum, it has also occurred to me that in this election everything is reversed.
Labour are the party of financial freedom, hence these vast debts, whereas the Tories are the party of financial discipline. Because we have so far behaved like irresponsible children in the sweet shop, it is now time for Mummy Bear and Daddy Bear to bring out the slippers and give us a damn good hiding. And you know what, we probably deserve it.

 

[Danny-Boy]

Why was Thatcher evil?

Please refer to my previous answer...

 

[Danny-Boy]

In this whole discussion about financial regulation of the markets it did occur to me just how selfish and hypocritical us Brits really are. Yes Gordon Brown certainly has made some mistakes, but at the end of the day it was US who ran up these vast debts, not the government. If Tony Blair and Gordon Brown are guilty of anything, it is giving the British people too much financial freedom, which we subsequently have abused. And now we have the temerity to blame Gordon Brown for said debt. It really is the highest hypocrisy.

And now it looks as if David Cameron is going to become PM, and with him will come some serious cuts and serious hardship. Will we end up hating him for making these cuts, when it has largely all been our own fault?

I really do despair with the British people, for proving that in reality we are no different to the Greeks, when for decades, nay centuries, we have kidded ourselves that we are superior. Cuts are cuts, and we will feel them just the same, and with the same degree of objection.

As an addendum, it has also occurred to me that in this election everything is reversed.
Labour are the party of financial freedom, hence these vast debts, whereas the Tories are the party of financial discipline. Because we have so far behaved like irresponsible children in the sweet shop, it is now time for Mummy Bear and Daddy Bear to bring out the slippers and give us a damn good hiding. And you know what, we probably deserve it.

I bet Georgie would LOVE slippering, would remind him of his public-schoool dorm days. Oh, a HIDING?

 

[GNF on Tour]

Gordon Brown comes out fighting today!! Go on my son ! Love the way the Tories talk about the needed to 'lessen waste' in the public sector ! This means of course sacking people so their top earner mates don't have to contribute any of their massive salaries in tax ! Two days to go !!!

 

[Chicken Run]

Don't worry, apart from Hove Born and Bred and I think two others on here, we weren't.

OOps another one here

 

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Love the way the Tories talk about the needed to 'lessen waste' in the public sector ! This means of course sacking people so their top earner mates don't have to contribute any of their massive salaries in tax !

You do talk some utter bollocks mate.