Doubt it very much. As someone who's 'rebuilt' this board (or whatever it is you do with these things), I'm sure Arthur would know this sort of thing.
(can you PM me who it is, I'm very bored and feel I need to know)
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Doubt it very much. As someone who's 'rebuilt' this board (or whatever it is you do with these things), I'm sure Arthur would know this sort of thing.
(can you PM me who it is, I'm very bored and feel I need to know)
dougdeep
New member
What a poor misguided soul.
Beach Hut
Brighton Bhuna Boy
Well if that is the case perhaps we should all know then.
The Large One
Who's Next?
f***ing hell, where do you start with such crock of shit?
One, Martin Perry has NEVER said that the funding is in place, for one simple reason. It isn't in place yet.
To compare Arsenal's situation and Brighton's situation is farcical. Lewes DC tried to do that as well - perhaps your line of thinking is the same as theirs. And look how far it got them.
Perhaps you can tell us how the club could have reacted better to the situation?
Ta.
Lord Bracknell
On fire
surrey jim
Not in Surrey
not me, working tuesday night
ROSM
Well-known member
Very interesting - because the Millenium Lottery Fund will obviously now just be the National Lottery as the Millenium fund closed in 2003. Funnily enough, agreements in principle made by that body will be referred to the National Lottery for a formal application. This is the stage we are now at.
I would also be really pleased that Martin perry wants details of all the grant applications kept secret as that is how I would handle a request process. The only people I would provide all request details to is the bank or securitisation agency. One reason I would want it kept quiet (other than to ensure that I got the most available) would be to prevent individuals with no knowledge of the formal process from assuming and then publishing that the request indicated financial difficulties. As the club have said on numerous occasions (many of which you were at!) that formal application for funds couldn't commence until planning permission was granted (and this includes turning agreements in principle into funds) and that this process would take approx 12 months to finalise.
But I know this wont appease, convince or even satisfy you. let's just hope that Mickey Adams isn't manager when we get the stadium otherwise Booing Basil may return.
Mellor 3 Ward 4
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Can't make it - hope there's someone there to pose the right questions to those in charge at the club.
Look forward to reading all about in on Wednesday.
Look forward to reading all about in on Wednesday.
D
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Maybe this time tomorrow some of the sceptical people will actually start believing it's going to happen.
I have no inclination to argue with Arthur - it would be utterly pointless. However, if he considers himself a true Albion fan and (mystifyingly) he actually believes this stuff, then he should turn up tomorrow and raise his concerns. Come on Arthur, expose Mr Perry as the charlatan you obviously consider him.
Oh and there may well be an NSC clique, but I disagree with you vehemently and if you think I'm in it then
Oh and there may well be an NSC clique, but I disagree with you vehemently and if you think I'm in it then
Just to add one thing I do agree with Arthur on though. It is shocking how we've struggled to get approval for our stadium, but Arsenal seemed to sailed through the whole process. I can only think that the world's fifth richest club have some kind of advantage over us. I agree that the most likely difference is a competent CE capable of personally navigating the intracies of the planning process. 
BensGrandad
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Isnt Martin Perry an expert in planning applications etc. Wasnt that why he was brought onto the board and given 1 % shares. Has he not done his bit and got planning permission for Falmer?
Arthur
Well-known member
I have no inclination to argue with Arthur - it would be utterly pointless. However, if he considers himself a true Albion fan and (mystifyingly) he actually believes this stuff, then he should turn up tomorrow and raise his concerns. Come on Arthur, expose Mr Perry as the charlatan you obviously consider him.
Oh and there may well be an NSC clique, but I disagree with you vehemently and if you think I'm in it then
Oooooh I'd forgotten about this thread.
If I could be there tomorrow (which I can)....I wouldn't! How many more times do I have to say it, I have better things than to listen to his twaddle. Go and ask a Blackpool fan what they think of him and his ability to get a ground built.
You people are never going to agree with me, we'll just have to see where we are in 5 years time. I am a true Albion fan so I sincerely hope I'm wrong, doubt I will be though.
Lord Bracknell
On fire
Just to add one thing I do agree with Arthur on though. It is shocking how we've struggled to get approval for our stadium, but Arsenal seemed to sailed through the whole process. I can only think that the world's fifth richest club have some kind of advantage over us. I agree that the most likely difference is a competent CE capable of personally navigating the intracies of the planning process.
What greatly assisted Arsenal was the decision of Ken Livingstone not to call the application in for the sort of public inquiry that Falmer was subjected to. Even allowing for that, it took them seven years between announcing Ashburton Grove as the preferred site and the Emirates Stadium actually opening.
Djmiles
Barndoor Holroyd
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
I'm confused.
At what point did Martin Perry PROMISE - not "firmly expect", not "hope to be", not "saying things like" - but actually PROMISE that we would be playing at Falmer by *insert date* ? Do you have a link to the quote ? Was it in the Argus ? Was it actually reported ANYWHERE ?
Also, at what point did it become Martin Perrys fault that LDC seized on an error in the Governments initial letter of consent, thus enabling them to challenge the decision and delay the plans for a further two years ? Who dropped the ball on THAT one ?
Arthur. most people seem capable of understanding the process the club has had to go through in order to (finally) achieve planning permission. Yes, we'd ALL have liked it to happen a lot sooner than it did, and its been hugely frustrating, but the reasons behind the delays are well documented, and were completely out of the clubs control (jees, I feel like I'm explaining this to a small child who didn't get what they wanted for Christmas).
You have failed to come up with a single example of an undelivered promise by Martin Perry, other than some vague bluster about funding and the timing over when we'll actually be there. He has promised nothing about funding, he has promised nothing about dates. You just seem to have some kind of agenda going to cast doubt on everything - which is fine, its your view and you're entitled to it. You don't believe its ever going to happen, and you're not a lone voice on that. But please don't try to claim Perry has left a string of broken promises behind him these last few years because it is clearly and patently not true.
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Bottler.
You know you'd get eaten alive, just like that live savaging Norman Baker took on SCR from Perry a couple of years ago.
The Large One
Who's Next?
One could ask Huddersfield and Bolton fans as well, but not right now.
Anyhoo, you're a bottler, you're dealing in wrong information, and taking the information you do have and deliberately misrepresenting it.
So what is your agenda?
Arthur
Well-known member
I have no agenda, other than I'm unhappy with Perry. It's in his interest to string this process out for as long as possible, he after all getting paid by the club. The club isn't going to start making money if this stadium gets built.
And yes, I guess I am bottling it, but only because he's got soo many of you hoodwinked into beleiving he has the clubs best interests at heart.