Your Teacher Asks You To Do Homework on a Person Who Has Changed The World

[Nibble]

There's also a whole world beyond the black civil rights movement in america.

Nelson Mandella is a yank?

I would imagine there is more to the subject than Spanish is letting on and I would imagine the project probably is about black civil rights etc.

 

[coventrygull]

This one of the best binfests for ages, we have run the gamut of rascism to paedophillia.... keep it up guys, never seen so many people Ideological Twister with such enthusiasm.... " Carry on everybody, you've all done very well"

There is nothing like it on a miserable day

 

[Nibble]

Why the sarcastic comment. The Government want the ethnics to feel British if they don't understand our culture or history how can they. The asians could even learn about the Indian troops in Brighton during world war 1

You do realise that British history gets taught as well?

I am in some doubt that thsi is their only history topic in their entire educations. Jebus, what is going on here?

 

[Mr Blunt]

Why the sarcastic comment. The Government want the ethnics to feel British if they don't understand our culture or history how can they. The asians could even learn about the Indian troops in Brighton during world war 1

This goverment contradict themselves all the time about this "Being British" concept.

 

[Nibble]

Oh for Gods sakes man! Listen to yourselves. It is like being in 60's Bolton.

 

[ATFC Seagull]

you obviously do not have much experience of modern inner london junior schools. black history month is just the high water mark of this agenda, a bit like december and christmas is to our all year round relentless consumerism.

i know all about the curriculum, where schools are 70%+ black, white middle class teachers feel the need to make it more 'relevant', the implication being you relate better to people who share your skin colour. A dangerous and very foolish way to look at the world, and one that certainly does not help ethnic minority children, in my view.

I haven't read all 7 pages of this (and won't waste my time doing so) but I think you're missing some key points here.

Firstly, there is a significant achievement gap between black and white students at all levels - one that goes beyond economic and social differences - which suggests that there is indeed perhaps an issue on cultural relevance.

Secondly, what is wrong with "black history" month? I would hazard to say that the rest of the year pretty much deals solely with "white history".

The National Curriculum states the idea of children learning about significant historical figures as well as about relevant issues of cause and causation, change and continuity etc. What could be a more relevant example than the growth of civil rights and racial equality - arguably the foremost achievement of your (an assumption bearing in mind you have a 10yr old child) generation. And particularly relevant given the recent election in America.

Thirdly, there are key paralells between these people and other important political and civil rights movements in our history, so why not show students these people as examples? Given that they are by far the more famous and accessible in this day and age, it would be strange not to.

But hey, lets blame "middle class teachers" (who earn less than a lot of people on here) and sensationalise everything.

 

[The Spanish]

Nelson Mandella is a yank?

I would imagine there is more to the subject than Spanish is letting on and I would imagine the project probably is about black civil rights etc.

do you honestly think that? I have deliberately omitted facts or twisted them to suit my own racist agenda? Life is too short for that. Its a reasonable query about the wisdom of what I see happening, that's all. I am not asking for lessons on what are the pink bits on the map or learning every king and queen by rote, far from it.

It is a big world out there indeed, and even 60 miles up the road from you it can be very different.

 

[coventrygull]

Oh for Gods sakes man! Listen to yourselves. It is like being in 60's Bolton.

I was never there. What was it like

 

[Eastleigh Seagull]

I'd like to know exactly the wording of the hmework that was set. All this rubbish about 'white ROLE MODELS' etc.... There was no mention of role models in the original post.

People who have changed the world? And as they had all done so in an undeniably good way then I think some of our esteemed colleagues took a logical leap onto the role model band wagon. I think that is a better show of logic than some other debate here.

Perhaps Lord Bracknell can enlighten us as to origin of the list of names and their purpose?

 

[Nibble]

Spanish et al

Here is Key stage 1 and 2 topic list for History. Still think they don't teach British History?

Unit 1. How are our toys different from those in the past?
Unit 2. What were homes like a long time ago?
Unit 3. What were seaside holidays like in the past?
Unit 4. Why do we remember Florence Nightingale?
Unit 5. How do we know about the Great Fire of London?
Unit 6A. Why have people invaded and settled in Britain in the past? A Roman case study
Unit 6B. Why have people invaded and settled in Britain in the past? An Anglo-Saxon case study
Unit 6C. Why have people invaded and settled in Britain in the past? A Viking case study
Unit 7. Why did Henry VIII marry six times?
Unit 8. What were the differences between the lives of rich and poor people in Tudor times?
Unit 9. What was it like for children in the Second World War?
Unit 10. What can we find out about ancient Egypt from what has survived?
Unit 11. What was it like for children living in Victorian Britain?
Unit 12. How did life change in our locality in Victorian times?
Unit 13. How has life in Britain changed since 1948?
Unit 14. Who were the ancient Greeks?
Unit 15. How do we use ancient Greek ideas today?
Unit 16. How can we find out about the Indus Valley civilisation?
Unit 17. What are we remembering on Remembrance Day?
Unit 18. What was it like to live here in the past?
Unit 19. What were the effects of Tudor exploration?
Unit 20. What can we learn about recent history from studying the life of a famous person?

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Spanish et al

Here is Key stage 1 and 2 topic list for History. Still think they don't teach British History?

Unit 1. How are our toys different from those in the past?
Unit 2. What were homes like a long time ago?
Unit 3. What were seaside holidays like in the past?
Unit 4. Why do we remember Florence Nightingale?
Unit 5. How do we know about the Great Fire of London?
Unit 6A. Why have people invaded and settled in Britain in the past? A Roman case study
Unit 6B. Why have people invaded and settled in Britain in the past? An Anglo-Saxon case study
Unit 6C. Why have people invaded and settled in Britain in the past? A Viking case study
Unit 7. Why did Henry VIII marry six times?
Unit 8. What were the differences between the lives of rich and poor people in Tudor times?
Unit 9. What was it like for children in the Second World War?
Unit 10. What can we find out about ancient Egypt from what has survived?
Unit 11. What was it like for children living in Victorian Britain?
Unit 12. How did life change in our locality in Victorian times?
Unit 13. How has life in Britain changed since 1948?
Unit 14. Who were the ancient Greeks?
Unit 15. How do we use ancient Greek ideas today?
Unit 16. How can we find out about the Indus Valley civilisation?
Unit 17. What are we remembering on Remembrance Day?
Unit 18. What was it like to live here in the past?
Unit 19. What were the effects of Tudor exploration?
Unit 20. What can we learn about recent history from studying the life of a famous person?

My oldest lad is Year 6, and I can actually remember him working through EVERY one of those topics over the last few years.

He is doing a famous person biography at the moment. [on KAKA!]

Edit; Actually, come to think of it, the lefty liberal teacher was much too accepting of letting him choose a DAGO footballer. She should have made him chose a white Enlish one. Like Lee Bowyer, or Joey Barton, perhaps?

 

[London Calling]

I haven't read all 7 pages of this (and won't waste my time doing so) but I think you're missing some key points here.

Firstly, there is a significant achievement gap between black and white students at all levels - one that goes beyond economic and social differences - which suggests that there is indeed perhaps an issue on cultural relevance.

Secondly, what is wrong with "black history" month? I would hazard to say that the rest of the year pretty much deals solely with "white history".

The National Curriculum states the idea of children learning about significant historical figures as well as about relevant issues of cause and causation, change and continuity etc. What could be a more relevant example than the growth of civil rights and racial equality - arguably the foremost achievement of your (an assumption bearing in mind you have a 10yr old child) generation. And particularly relevant given the recent election in America.

Thirdly, there are key paralells between these people and other important political and civil rights movements in our history, so why not show students these people as examples? Given that they are by far the more famous and accessible in this day and age, it would be strange not to.

But hey, lets blame "middle class teachers" (who earn less than a lot of people on here) and sensationalise everything.

just to add.

when does British colonial history stop and world history start and Mr. Mandela was a result of the apartheid supported system the UK allowed and encouraged to set up.

The UK faciliated the racist development of the America's through its import of slaves and apartheid it established in the America's. The Yanks just carried it on.


Personally I would have added Ghandi to that list: the mentor to the South African and US (non-violent) Civil Rights movement.

 

[Billy the Fish]

Could have sworn that Mandela chap was South African.

Obviously I wasn't talking about Mandela, but thanks for being so pedantic. I just couldn't be arsed to write apartheid, and given that two thirds of my statement is correct thought that it might be enough to get my point across.
To me it's not even a question of race, why aren't there any scientists or explorers on the list? I'm merely trying to back up the original point that the teacher obviously has an agenda. I don't even know why I care to be honest, this shit doesn't even affect me

 

[Nibble]

Obviously I wasn't talking about Mandela, but thanks for being so pedantic. I just couldn't be arsed to write apartheid, and given that two thirds of my statement is correct thought that it might be enough to get my point across.
To me it's not even a question of race, why aren't there any scientists or explorers on the list? I'm merely trying to back up the original point that the teacher obviously has an agenda. I don't even know why I care to be honest, this shit doesn't even affect me

It's not the teacher you plum! read the curriculum.

 

[coventrygull]

My oldest lad is Year 6, and I can actually remember him working through EVERY one of those topics over the last few years.

He is doing a famous person biography at the moment. [on KAKA!]

Edit; Actually, come to think of it, the lefty liberal teacher was much too accepting of letting him choose a DAGO footballer. She should have made him chose a white Enlish one. Like Lee Bowyer, or Joey Barton, perhaps?

Could have chosen Di Canio

 

[Chesney Christ]

What an utterly depressing thread this is. I'm always astonished by the amount of hateful people on this board.

Most incredibly, Questions - a user who hounded every post I made for months purely because I once claimed "Paki" was a racist term - is talking an UNBELIEVABLE amount of sense.

 

[ATFC Seagull]

Obviously I wasn't talking about Mandela, but thanks for being so pedantic. I just couldn't be arsed to write apartheid, and given that two thirds of my statement is correct thought that it might be enough to get my point across.
To me it's not even a question of race, why aren't there any scientists or explorers on the list? I'm merely trying to back up the original point that the teacher obviously has an agenda. I don't even know why I care to be honest, this shit doesn't even affect me

Yep - I would imagine the agenda is ticking the skills and content boxes on the National Curriculum with a relevant, interesting and appropriate example of civil rights based on race.

 

[Nibble]

stage 3

Unit 1. Introductory unit what's it all about?
Unit 2. How did medieval monarchs keep control?
Unit 3. How hard was life for medieval people in town and country?
Unit 4. How did the medieval church affect people's lives?
Unit 5. Elizabeth I how successfully did she tackle the problems of her reign?
Unit 6. What were the achievements of the Islamic states 600-1600?
Unit 7. Images of an age what can we learn from portraits 1500-1750?
Unit 8. The civil wars was England 'turned upside down' in the seventeenth century?
Unit 9. From Glorious Revolution to the '45 how united was the kingdom?
Unit 10. France 1789-94 why was there a revolution?
Unit 11. Industrial changes action and reaction
Unit 12. Snapshot 1900 what was British middle-class life like?
Unit 13. Mughal India and the coming of the British, 1526-1857 how did the Mughal Empire rise and fall?
Unit 14. The British Empire how was it that, by 1900, Britain controlled nearly a quarter of the world?
Unit 15. Black peoples of America from slavery to equality?
Unit 16. The franchise why did it take so much longer for British women to get the vote?
Unit 17. Divided Ireland why has it been so hard to achieve peace in Ireland?
Unit 18. Hot war, cold war why did the major twentieth-century conflicts affect so many people?
Unit 19. How and why did the Holocaust happen?
Unit 20. Twentieth-century medicine how has it changed the lives of people?
Unit 21. From Aristotle to the atom scientific discoveries that changed the world?
Unit 22. The role of the individual for good or ill?

 

[Nibble]

As the two curriculum lists prove all the things you want them to learn are on there at some point.

 

[ATFC Seagull]

It's not the teacher you plum! read the curriculum.

Think me and you are on the same side here mate so I hesitate to say this, but that list isn't the curriculum - it looks like a particular school's scheme of work chosen to incorporate the curriculum.