Your Teacher Asks You To Do Homework on a Person Who Has Changed The World

[vegster]

I suspect the results that kids get for these exams are more about HOW they go about researching their subject, how much effort they put in to it, and how well they present their findings, rather than whether they can tell the life story of Rosa Parks until the end of their days.

This is one sector out of an entire year's work (most of which will probably be spent discussing essentially British history anyway) so does it really matter that kids have a few weeks (probably 5 or 6 lessons) experiencing somebody else's view of the world?

Does a little knowledge of other people's perspective on life not make us more rounded as individuals??

Look out ! PC PC is on the case....

 

[Questions]

What a cnt you are. Shame your teachers did not expend some energy on teaching you not to be a smug no nothing cnt with no answers, just smarmy posturing.

He`s done ok. He`s a cleaner with smarmy posturing no nothing answers.

 

[coventrygull]

You're missing the point of this thread Edna. It's classic far right exageration to try and whip up a bit of hysteria. A minor part of the curriculum for one class is being protrayed as if all London's schoolkids are taught nothing but black history the entire time. The fact that Bushy jumped in so quickly is a bit of a clue. Fortunately most people can recognise it for what it is.

we all like to whip up a bit of hysteria now and again. The lefties are very good at it. Its all part of the game

 

[The Spanish]

It's called education you plonker. Why shouldn't human racial history be a part of a child's curriculum? Emancipation, wars, geographical rights of government - all part of history that is the foundation of all our todays.
In a thousand years mankind might look upon the bonds and social mores of racism as a key moment in THIS period in time. The Beatles will get filed with classic music, and manned space exploration with astronomy and advancements in technology. These are all parts of our modern history, and actually the racial issue is not even yet history.
So, it's an excellent way to draw a line under the subject, by declaring the race freedom fighters as historical icons.

Get with the program!

I would be interested to hear if Brighton or Sussex schools are pursuing this with a similar vigour. Again the point is missed, no one is saying learning about civil rights, abolition of the slave trade, or any aspect of history with a racial aspect (i.e. most international events that have ever taken place ever) should be ignored. What I am saying is I am witnessing a very odd approach to teaching that seems specifically to cater for people of a certain ethnic background (not necessarily cultural though) which I am sure does not happen in rural Sussex.

Branding people who raise this as an issue bigots or at least plonkers who do not understand how enriching this is does no one any favours. Least of all the people who are having a view reinforced that they need to focus on their ethnicity with the degree of emphasis that I see in some schools.

Please do not take me for a cnt with all this bollocks above, we have serious social problems here and I feel that the wedges being driven through society and ghettoisation are certainly not being helped by the approach by some in the teaching profession. Saying one day our big headed withered limbed descendents in their space stations will look at this as a pivotal moment in human history is not really helping.

 

[coventrygull]

I would be interested to hear if Brighton or Sussex schools are pursuing this with a similar vigour. Again the point is missed, no one is saying learning about civil rights, abolition of the slave trade, or any aspect of history with a racial aspect (i.e. most international events that have ever taken place ever) should be ignored. What I am saying is I am witnessing a very odd approach to teaching that seems specifically to cater for people of a certain ethnic background (not necessarily cultural though) which I am sure does not happen in rural Sussex.

Branding people who raise this as an issue bigots or at least plonkers who do not understand how enriching this is does no one any favours. Least of all the people who are having a view reinforced that they need to focus on their ethnicity with the degree of emphasis that I see in some schools.

Please do not take me for a cnt with all this bollocks above, we have serious social problems here and I feel that the wedges being driven through society and ghettoisation are certainly not being helped by the approach by some in the teaching profession. Saying one day our big headed withered limbed descendents in their space stations will look at this as a pivotal moment in human history is not really helping.

Sorry but you are being far too intelligent and sensible.

 

[Questions]

Spanish et al

Here is Key stage 1 and 2 topic list for History. Still think they don't teach British History?

Unit 1. How are our toys different from those in the past?
Unit 2. What were homes like a long time ago?
Unit 3. What were seaside holidays like in the past?
Unit 4. Why do we remember Florence Nightingale?
Unit 5. How do we know about the Great Fire of London?
Unit 6A. Why have people invaded and settled in Britain in the past? A Roman case study
Unit 6B. Why have people invaded and settled in Britain in the past? An Anglo-Saxon case study
Unit 6C. Why have people invaded and settled in Britain in the past? A Viking case study
Unit 7. Why did Henry VIII marry six times?
Unit 8. What were the differences between the lives of rich and poor people in Tudor times?
Unit 9. What was it like for children in the Second World War?
Unit 10. What can we find out about ancient Egypt from what has survived?
Unit 11. What was it like for children living in Victorian Britain?
Unit 12. How did life change in our locality in Victorian times?
Unit 13. How has life in Britain changed since 1948?
Unit 14. Who were the ancient Greeks?
Unit 15. How do we use ancient Greek ideas today?
Unit 16. How can we find out about the Indus Valley civilisation?
Unit 17. What are we remembering on Remembrance Day?
Unit 18. What was it like to live here in the past?
Unit 19. What were the effects of Tudor exploration?
Unit 20. What can we learn about recent history from studying the life of a famous person?

Unit 4. She had a candle.

 

[coventrygull]

Unit 4. She had a candle.

She liked the ladies

 

[Lady Whistledown]

All I was saying is that I can't see why it's any more unreasonable for white kids to spend a couple of weeks looking at Nelson Mandela, than for black kids to study Henry VIII, or Churchill, or William Shakespeare.

It's about learning to study and putting the effort in. It doesn't mean kids are going to develop a lifelong interest in the subject. Bloody hell, they made me do assignments on Islam and Judaism in my Religious Studies lessons a few years back, but it doesn't mean I'm going to agree to an arranged marriage or refuse to work on the Sabbath any time soon.

 

[vegster]

All I was saying is that I can't see why it's any more unreasonable for white kids to spend a couple of weeks looking at Nelson Mandela, than for black kids to study Henry VIII, or Churchill, or William Shakespeare.

It's about learning to study and putting the effort in. It doesn't mean kids are going to develop a lifelong interest in the subject. Bloody hell, they made me do assignments on Islam and Judaism in my Religious Studies lessons a few years back, but it doesn't mean I'm going to agree to an arranged marriage or refuse to work on the Sabbath any time soon.

do you still get double time for sundays then Edna ?

 

[The Spanish]

She liked the ladies

Mary Seacole was in fact the better nurse.

 

[coventrygull]

Mary Seacole was in fact the better nurse.

I wonder how many children learn about her.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

double time for sundays

 

[SICKASAGULL]

Rosa Parks not on my radar tried a number of members of family and friends but complete blank except for one person who suggested she could be sister of Rosa Trees

 

[Questions]

The ten year old boy who started all these arguements would only now be approaching key stage 3 in the next year anyway so the list that Lord Bracknell put up would mean very little to them at this stage of their education.
So if these were the first 3 names put forward to them in this initial entry time I would say they were not particularly representative of the areas these children need to be going in at this stage of their education.
Agendas ? Maybe.
I`ve just asked my 11 year old son how many of the names he recognised off the list and he knew of 3. He knew a little of Florence Nightingale and a bit more of Elizabeth 1.
He could probably speak for several minutes on Nelson Mandela and the South African black struggle because he has been to Robin Island, and learnt of apartheid from me.
Maybe there lies the problem.

 

[The Spanish]

The ten year old boy who started all these arguements would only now be approaching key stage 3 in the next year anyway so the list that Lord Bracknell put up would mean very little to them at this stage of their education.
So if these were the first 3 names put forward to them in this initial entry time I would say they were not particularly representative of the areas these children need to be going in at this stage of their education.
Agendas ? Maybe.
I`ve just asked my 11 year old son how many of the names he recognised off the list and he knew of 3. He knew a little of Florence Nightingale and a bit more of Elizabeth 1.
He could probably speak for several minutes on Nelson Mandela and the South African black struggle because he has been to Robin Island, and learnt of apartheid from me.
Maybe there lies the problem.

I am 37 not 10.

 

[vegster]

The ten year old boy who started all these arguements would only now be approaching key stage 3 in the next year anyway so the list that Lord Bracknell put up would mean very little to them at this stage of their education.
So if these were the first 3 names put forward to them in this initial entry time I would say they were not particularly representative of the areas these children need to be going in at this stage of their education.
Agendas ? Maybe.
I`ve just asked my 11 year old son how many of the names he recognised off the list and he knew of 3. He knew a little of Florence Nightingale and a bit more of Elizabeth 1.
He could probably speak for several minutes on Nelson Mandela and the South African black struggle because he has been to Robin Island, and learnt of apartheid from me.
Maybe there lies the problem.

and, after the trip to Robin Island, did he finally tidy his room ?

 

[Questions]

and, after the trip to Robin Island, did he finally tidy his room ?

No and nor did Nelson Mandela. It was in a hell of a mess.

 

[Questions]

I am 37 not 10.

That was said in jest Spanish.

 

[Dover]

The Spanish. Let your nipper write about Walter Tull.

 

[The Spanish]

That was said in jest Spanish.

So was mine believe it or not. Even narrow minded bigots can at least attempt irony from time to time.