York Mosque shows the way for all of us

[daveinprague]

It is according to the Tottenham & Wood Green Journal

The investigation, which is being led by the Met’s counter-terrorism command, this afternoon had teams combing the scene around the destroyed two-storey building, which is owned by Barnet Council and listed as a mosque.

The thing is speculation and knee jerk reactions are dangerous in these sort of times..not referring to anybody on NSC...you dont know who is doing what...

 

[King of Birds]

hahaha how are you going to ban arranged marriages?? thats just nonsense. to what degree of arrangement? how will you enforce this?

sorry but thats liberal gibberish to avoid discussing the real issue head on.

indeed what this country needs is more pointless unenforceable legislation at a massive cost.

as for moderating our foreign policy so as not to produce terrorists who hack soldiers to death on the streets of london, out of British citizens, then that is taking the bonkersness to a new level.

if you think thats sensible and balanced david then i am concerned. its moderate and unconfrontational yes, but thats not the same thing.

these wishy washy attitudes are exactly what bought us to this point.

So, what do you suggest we do then?

 

[Soulman]

It is according to the Tottenham & Wood Green Journal

The investigation, which is being led by the Met’s counter-terrorism command, this afternoon had teams combing the scene around the destroyed two-storey building, which is owned by Barnet Council and listed as a mosque.

The thing is speculation and knee jerk reactions are dangerous in these sort of times..not referring to anybody on NSC...you dont know who is doing what...

Indeed, let's hope both incidents are "vigorously" investigated and the culprits caught and named and shamed.
The end result being the cleaning up of the Bomber Command Memorial will be paid for by the RAF Benevolent Fund, and a brand new Mosque paid out of the insurance.

 

[Soulman]

Muswell hill firebomb attack.
Blamed on the EDL , the police have a person in custody.
And romour has it , it is a muslim.
So I will wait for baited breath for the apology for the accusation.
The silence will be deafening.

 

[daveinprague]

Accusation?

 

[Dandyman]

So, to answer Fergus' "where to start with Muslim culture in the UK" questions;

I wouldn't ban the burka per se, but I would try to discourage the wearing of it, working with Imams and the Muslim Council of Great Britain.

I would make arranged marriages illegal as I don't believe they have any place in modern society, anywhere.

I would get as many people as possible from all walks of life into schools and community groups to educate and debate the issues we are talking about here.

Paradoxically, prior to Iraq and Afghanistan there was some evidence of young British Muslims starting to moderate and reject the more archaic elements of Islam held by their parents. Some still do, I know this because some such are my friends, but many have been and continue to be radicalised, with our foreign policies used as a convenient argument by the brain-washers. We scored such a massive own goal by hanging on to the United States' shirttails it's unbelievable.

Arranged marriage or forced marriage ? Do you seriously think Prince Charles' first marriage was not arranged ?

 

[redhill seagull 66]

Muswell hill firebomb attack.
Blamed on the EDL , the police have a person in custody.
And romour has it , it is a muslim.
So I will wait for baited breath for the apology for the accusation.
The silence will be deafening.

This could be a very intresting turn of events if rumour is correct.

 

[stripeyshark]

What is worse? Racism or Terrorism?

 

[Soulman]

I dont think it is a cop out at all. I think its more likely done by a fascist in order to inflame the current situation, than a muslim.

Quotedaveinprague; "Tell me why, in a period of high tension, with muslims keeping their heads down in the face of over 200 reported attacks since this tragic event, would any muslim want to ratchet up the tension by doing that?
I believe it was spraypainted by an idiot, or a right wing group, who are busy with their grief hijack of this poor boys death" Quote.

Hmm.
Maybe a look at this as well eh.
Who's Behind the UAF
http://www.coffeehousewall.co.uk/do-we-really-know-who-is-behind-the-uaf/

 

[daveinprague]

Ive no idea what youre on about at the moment, about the graffitti or the blaze?
Is there some news about it?

Not sure why I should be interested in UAF either reailly, but go on...

 

[Soulman]

Ive no idea what youre on about at the moment, about the graffitti or the blaze?
Is there some news about it?

Not sure why I should be interested in UAF either reailly, but go on...

They have already caught the guy for spraying ISLAM on the wall remember, it shows the African chap in the CCTV. So it is the blaze.

 

[daveinprague]

Ive seen the cctv of the memorial.. but not anything about the blaze. African means muslim? It may well be, but thats a bit of a leap isnt it?

 

[Soulman]

Not sure why I should be interested in UAF either reailly, but go on...

Sorry my bad. I assumed that as you previously stated that you had been on a couple of counter demos against the EDL and also your posts on the Argus websites, that you had been amongst them.

 

[daveinprague]

Ive seen the cctv of the memorial.. but not anything about the blaze. African means muslim? It may well be, but thats a bit of a leap isnt it?
Has there been arrests, for both the incidents? ive genuinly seen nothing in in the news today.

 

[daveinprague]

Sorry my bad. I assumed that as you previously stated that you had been on a couple of counter demos against the EDL and also your posts on the Argus websites, that you had been amongst them.

No, have no interest them really, other than they confront the right as well..... all sorts of people counter demo, not just UAF..

 

[Buzzer]

all sorts of people counter demo, not just UAF..

Very true. And the best ones do it with a smile on their face

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[Soulman]

Ive seen the cctv of the memorial.. but not anything about the blaze. African means muslim? It may well be, but thats a bit of a leap isnt it?
Has there been arrests, for both the incidents? ive genuinly seen nothing in in the news today.

You also said that thre have been 200 attacks on Muslims since the beheading of Drummer Rigby, it was actually "attacks" on various social websites, the Met and other police forces had no records. I would say "attacks" from both sides, mainly reported on one side though. The other side perhaps.
"Student who tweeted that people wearing Help for Heroes shirt 'deserve to be beheaded' sentenced to community service over vile jibe

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...entenced-community-service.html#ixzz2VdmiYxxM

 

[daveinprague]

?

but what were you saying about arrests earlier?

 

[redhill seagull 66]

You also said that thre have been 200 attacks on Muslims since the beheading of Drummer Rigby, it was actually "attacks" on various social websites, the Met and other police forces had no records. I would say "attacks" from both sides, mainly reported on one side though. The other side perhaps.
"Student who tweeted that people wearing Help for Heroes shirt 'deserve to be beheaded' sentenced to community service over vile jibe

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...entenced-community-service.html#ixzz2VdmiYxxM

community service!!fxcking joke!

 

[Footsoldier]

Where can you buy these 'Help for heroes' t-shirts? I want to buy one and I'll where it with pride.