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[cunning fergus]

So this highlights a certain model of pedophilia involving ('probably', there is no mention of Islam in your article) Muslims which needs to be addressed. Your article, the same as Soulman's examples, shows that this group are involved in Pedophilia.

See, there you are again being deliberately disingenuous..........and it's not my article it's Andrew Norfolk's........he has reported on the scandal over recent years. He has won awards for his work from his peers, but you know better sitting the other side of the world, literally and metaphorically.

Take your pick from these...........

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/public/profile/Andrew-Norfolk

 

[Soulman]

See, there you are again being deliberately disingenuous..........and it's not my article it's Andrew Norfolk's........he has reported on the scandal over recent years. He has won awards for his work from his peers, but you know better sitting the other side of the world, literally and metaphorically.

Take your pick from these...........

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/public/profile/Andrew-Norfolk

You are wasting your breath. In about a year's time when many other similar cases come out (if reported in the mainstream news) then perhaps some might take notice.

 

[BadFish]

See, there you are again being deliberately disingenuous..........and it's not my article it's Andrew Norfolk's........he has reported on the scandal over recent years. He has won awards for his work from his peers, but you know better sitting the other side of the world, literally and metaphorically.

Take your pick from these...........

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/public/profile/Andrew-Norfolk

To be honest I think we are talking at cross purposes here. I acknowledge that there is a problem. The grooming and pedophilia model that Andrew Norfolk has described and the suspected cover up needs to be addressed. The questions I am asking is are these groups and cover ups any worse than other pedophile rings operating in the UK? and. Are there more of the Asian/Muslim rings than groups involving other groups.

The suggestion seemed to be that Muslim are more likely to be involved in these activities than other groups which I don't believe has been addressed in the links posted.

 

[Soulman]

To be honest I think we are talking at cross purposes here. I acknowledge that there is a problem. The grooming and pedophilia model that Andrew Norfolk has described and the suspected cover up needs to be addressed. The questions I am asking is are these groups and cover ups any worse than other pedophile rings operating in the UK? and. Are there more of the Asian/Muslim rings than groups involving other groups.

The suggestion seemed to be that Muslim are more likely to be involved in these activities than other groups which I don't believe has been addressed in the links posted.

Taken from a report in the left leaning Guardian.
"At present, the closest we have to a national estimate comes from CEOP's 2011 scoping study into "localised grooming", roughly synonymous with on-street grooming. Response rates to the researchers request for data from police, children's services and the third sector, were low. Based on these patchy data, CEOP suggest there are over 2,000 "potential offenders" in the UK. Most of these, however, will never have been formally identified, let alone arrested, charged or prosecuted. Ethnicity data were available for just one-third. Of these, 49% were white and 46% Asian: the proportion of Pakistani Asians remains unknown. However, in a country where Asians constitute 7% of the general population, this is a striking figure.

We believe that there are two main profiles of the on-street groomer. First, we have the white offenders, who typically offend alone. So far, nothing new: the lone white male is the norm for UK child sex offences. Second, however, there are Asian offenders, many of whom are of Pakistani origin. They seem much more likely to offend in groups, lending their abuse a curiously social dimension. In our research, which focuses on large offending groups, we analysed police data from five major on-street grooming investigations. Of the 52 suspects charged, 83% were Asian Pakistani, 11% Asian other and 6% white British. These are shocking statistics and the over-representation of Asian offenders within this dataset certainly merits attention. There may be important factors that explain why the bigger networks have been largely Asian. Nonetheless, it is crucial to remember that these cases do not paint a full picture of this crime. If on-street grooming continues to be reduced to the big Asian networks alone, a whole host of other offenders will get overlooked."

 

[BadFish]

Taken from a report in the left leaning Guardian.
"At present, the closest we have to a national estimate comes from CEOP's 2011 scoping study into "localised grooming", roughly synonymous with on-street grooming. Response rates to the researchers request for data from police, children's services and the third sector, were low. Based on these patchy data, CEOP suggest there are over 2,000 "potential offenders" in the UK. Most of these, however, will never have been formally identified, let alone arrested, charged or prosecuted. Ethnicity data were available for just one-third. Of these, 49% were white and 46% Asian: the proportion of Pakistani Asians remains unknown. However, in a country where Asians constitute 7% of the general population, this is a striking figure.

We believe that there are two main profiles of the on-street groomer. First, we have the white offenders, who typically offend alone. So far, nothing new: the lone white male is the norm for UK child sex offences. Second, however, there are Asian offenders, many of whom are of Pakistani origin. They seem much more likely to offend in groups, lending their abuse a curiously social dimension. In our research, which focuses on large offending groups, we analysed police data from five major on-street grooming investigations. Of the 52 suspects charged, 83% were Asian Pakistani, 11% Asian other and 6% white British. These are shocking statistics and the over-representation of Asian offenders within this dataset certainly merits attention. There may be important factors that explain why the bigger networks have been largely Asian. Nonetheless, it is crucial to remember that these cases do not paint a full picture of this crime. If on-street grooming continues to be reduced to the big Asian networks alone, a whole host of other offenders will get overlooked."

Here is the link to the rest of it if you are interested. It makes quite a lot of sense to me.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/may/08/asian-sex-gangs-on-street-grooming?newsfeed=true

 

[BadFish]

Taken from a report in the left leaning Guardian.
"At present, the closest we have to a national estimate comes from CEOP's 2011 scoping study into "localised grooming", roughly synonymous with on-street grooming. Response rates to the researchers request for data from police, children's services and the third sector, were low. Based on these patchy data, CEOP suggest there are over 2,000 "potential offenders" in the UK. Most of these, however, will never have been formally identified, let alone arrested, charged or prosecuted. Ethnicity data were available for just one-third. Of these, 49% were white and 46% Asian: the proportion of Pakistani Asians remains unknown. However, in a country where Asians constitute 7% of the general population, this is a striking figure.

We believe that there are two main profiles of the on-street groomer. First, we have the white offenders, who typically offend alone. So far, nothing new: the lone white male is the norm for UK child sex offences. Second, however, there are Asian offenders, many of whom are of Pakistani origin. They seem much more likely to offend in groups, lending their abuse a curiously social dimension. In our research, which focuses on large offending groups, we analysed police data from five major on-street grooming investigations. Of the 52 suspects charged, 83% were Asian Pakistani, 11% Asian other and 6% white British. These are shocking statistics and the over-representation of Asian offenders within this dataset certainly merits attention. There may be important factors that explain why the bigger networks have been largely Asian. Nonetheless, it is crucial to remember that these cases do not paint a full picture of this crime. If on-street grooming continues to be reduced to the big Asian networks alone, a whole host of other offenders will get overlooked."

double post!

 

[Nibble]

If people don't think that Asians' attitude to white British is getting more prevalent, fervid and violent they need to open their eyes. It has become a problem that the UK government refuse to address. Hence the rise of moronic groups such as EDL. At some point white British will kick back and it's going to get very messy.

 

[Hungry Joe]

If people don't think that Asians' attitude to white British is getting more prevalent, fervid and violent they need to open their eyes. Hence the rise of moronic groups such as EDL. At some point white British will kick back and it's going to get very messy.

Sad but true. Racism and cultural sectarianism is on the rise on all sides, for a multitude of reasons. Hell, I've noticed it living in leafy Sussex, my friend who has lived in Tottenham since he left the Valleys to go to Uni in the 70's is now seriously thinking of moving out for the first time because of it. And he's a big hard Welsh Socialist, not some scared liberal or paranoid whitey. Says it all really. Depressing state of affairs that can't even start to be solved by sticking our heads in the sand and hoping the growing ranks of the EDL will just go away.