Welcoming refugees. Well done Brits!

[Pretty pink fairy]

ppf doesn't want a solution to them losing their lives. He wants a solution to them arriving here.

But that all goes hand in hand

Regards
DF

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

https://www.refugeecouncil.org.uk/l...he-channel-are-likely-be-fleeing-persecution/

The report, An analysis of Channel crossings & asylum outcomes, based on Freedom of Information data and Home Office statistics for the period between January 2020 and May 2021 finds that 91% of people came from just ten countries where human rights abuses and persecution are common. These include Afghanistan, Iran, Syria, Iraq, Sudan, Eritrea and Yemen.

According to the Home Office 98% of people coming across the Channel apply for asylum. The report sets out the likely outcome of their asylum claims, based on what is known as the grant rate, meaning that people will be able to remain in the UK. It shows that the majority of people crossing the Channel are likely to be recognised as being in need of protection at initial decision stage.

The report calls into question the government and Home Office’s narrative that the majority of people crossing the Channel are not in genuine need of protection. It says the government should rethink its new Borders Bill and calls for:

An ambitious expansion of existing safe routes including both resettlement scenes and refugee family reunion.
A humanitarian visa system to allow people to apply for a visa to enter the UK for the purposes of claiming asylum, thereby reducing the need for people to make dangerous journeys across the Channel
A recognition that many people seeking asylum will have no other option other than making an irregular journey as recognised in the 1951 Refugee Convention, and therefore they need to be treated fairly and humanely by being granted a fair hearing on UK soil. The government need to put in place an efficient and effective asylum decision making system with timely decisions that are of high quality so people do not have to wait for months or years for an outcome on their case.

The new immigration bill will sort all this twaddle out ,what's not to like

Regards
DF

 

[Thunder Bolt]

The new immigration bill will sort all this twaddle out ,what's not to like

It might change the law here but it won't change International Law. The Royal Navy and RNLI will keep that despite the government.

Stop posting lies about people, human beings who happen to be born elsewhere and need help.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

It might change the law here but it won't change International Law. The Royal Navy and RNLI will keep that despite the government.

Stop posting lies about people, human beings who happen to be born elsewhere and need help.

No one's telling lies, 80% of the arrivals are men of a certain age who are making a illegal crossing of the channel who are economic migrants I know you find it difficult to accept that but that's what's happening

Firm action needs to be in place to stop that this farce can't continue

Regards
DF

 

[WATFORD zero]

No one's telling lies, 80% of the arrivals are men of a certain age who are making a illegal crossing of the channel who are economic migrants I know you find it difficult to accept that but that's what's happening

Firm action needs to be in place to stop that this farce can't continue

Regards
DF

Your last attempt at 'Firm action' has increased the problem threefold

You seem obsessed with me

Regards
DF

No, but seeing your increasing frustration and anger at your own total ineptitude is somewhat entertaining

 

[nicko31]

Indeed.

I would suggest that getting back the UK's seat on the management board for Europol - the European Union Agency for Law Enforcement Cooperation - and getting British officers access to the Europol database would be measures that could reduce the issue and would help the UK’s and EU's efforts to dismantle immigrant smuggling networks. Reinstating or replacing the much maligned Dublin regulation would certainly also help. Also, if we could improve international relations with the countries across the channel I'm sure we would be more likely to find successful joint operations and solutions.

It may just be coincidence but all these things going seemed to have coincided with the three fold (and growing) increase.

I don't know how we would go about that though

Do you have any suggestions as to how to help ?

The chickens in "chicken run" are coming home to roost

 

[Lever]

The government says those arriving in small boats are nearly all economic migrants – a claim repeated on Tuesday in the Commons by the home secretary. The reality is different. An analysis by the Refugee Council published last week shows that almost all arrivals in the 18 months to June this year were from 10 countries, including Iran, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Sudan, Eritrea and Afghanistan, where persecution is not uncommon. More than six out of 10 people from these countries seeking asylum in the UK are granted refugee status or protection. For the top five countries it is higher, at seven out of 10.

 

[Razzoo]

The government says those arriving in small boats are nearly all economic migrants – a claim repeated on Tuesday in the Commons by the home secretary. The reality is different. An analysis by the Refugee Council published last week shows that almost all arrivals in the 18 months to June this year were from 10 countries, including Iran, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Sudan, Eritrea and Afghanistan, where persecution is not uncommon. More than six out of 10 people from these countries seeking asylum in the UK are granted refugee status or protection. For the top five countries it is higher, at seven out of 10.

Then by those figures that means that more than 3 in 10 are not deserving of asylum. They are taking the places of significant numbers of genuine refugees.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Then by those figures that means that more than 3 in 10 are not deserving of asylum. They are taking the places of significant numbers of genuine refugees.

That's the job of the Home Office whereas 7/10 are genuine. It was always thus.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Classic Greek scholar

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[Lever]

Then by those figures that means that more than 3 in 10 are not deserving of asylum. They are taking the places of significant numbers of genuine refugees

It's probably quite difficult to establish who is not 'deserving' as their cases will not necessarily be entirely clear cut; also perhaps complex cases don't represent the most prescient issue at the moment because that can be sorted out over time.

However, maybe this will help in some small way to shed some light on the current situation.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-migrant-channel-deaths-b1964294.html

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Classic Greek scholar

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Seriously WTF.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

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Seriously WTF.

Look up Narcissus.
Johnson is supposed to be a Classic Greek scholar, but it seems he imitates it.

 

[Razzoo]

Classic Greek scholar

[tweet]1464244096554385422[/tweet]

How is this any less offensive than the image that got a thread locked yesterday?

 

[Lever]

‘I come, or I die’: fatalistic refugees say Channel crossing their only option

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...fugees-say-channel-crossing-their-only-option

 

[Thunder Bolt]

How is this any less offensive than the image that got a thread locked yesterday?

That thread was locked because the photoshopped image had been taken to court, and damages to Corbyn paid out (and thence to charity)
If Johnson sues Cold War Steve, then I'll be the first to ask the moderators to remove it.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

‘I come, or I die’: fatalistic refugees say Channel crossing their only option

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...fugees-say-channel-crossing-their-only-option

What a load of bolocks France is a safe country ,the only problem for them and I repeat again NO FOUR STAR HOTELS NO THREE MEALS A DAY AND NO £35 A WEEK HAND OUTS

Regards
DF

 

[Lever]

What a load of bolocks France is a safe country ,the only problem for them and I repeat again NO FOUR STAR HOTELS NO THREE MEALS A DAY AND NO £35 A WEEK HAND OUTS

Regards
DF

No, your spelling is still not up to the standard of a child at Junior School and your cognitive powers are equally weak.

All your contributions are badly written, poorly constructed and entirely meritless in content.

Why not just be grateful that the powers that be in this country don't consider low levels of thinking to be a cause for deportation - yet.....

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

No, your spelling is still not up to the standard of a child at Junior School and your cognitive powers are equally weak.

All your contributions are badly written, poorly constructed and entirely meritless in content.

Why not just be grateful that the powers that be in this country don't consider low levels of thinking to be a cause for deportation - yet.....

You still can't address the situation ......carry on though

Regards
DF

 

[Lever]

You still can't address the situation ......carry on though

Regards
DF

I have no idea what you are blathering on about.. Please have another go though, I enjoy reading your efforts at making sense.