No, regardless of your ironic wit, part of the of levelling-out process, is that while some countries' standards of living will rise, others will fall, because to level out social and economic standards, this means that money will have to pour from the rich countries to the poor countries. The UK is one of the countries whose standard of living is falling and will fall much further. Already, councils cannot afford to repair potholes in the roads or mow verges so often. Roadside weeds in towns are increasing as are the numbers of homeless people. The NHS cannot cope with the numbers of patients and more and more are having to be treated privately. Schools are in meltdown and there has been a shortage of maths and science teachers for decades. There are not enough police on the streets and not enough prisons for offenders, who are increasingly being let off a jail sentence or having their sentence reduced to make room in the prisons. I've been living abroad for a decade and during that time, Britain has become more and more like a third-world country. Like watching your children grow up it's hard to notice the changes when you live among them daily. But if you didn't see your children for 10 years, you'd see an instant difference between the toddler you last saw and the developing adult before you now. The trouble is, while all these unnoticed changes are going on, councils are farting around with useless policies, such as expensive cycle lanes, when there are far more pressing problems that they should be addressing.
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No, regardless of your ironic wit, part of the of levelling-out process, is that while some countries' standards of living will rise, others will fall, because to level out social and economic standards, this means that money will have to pour from the rich countries to the poor countries. The UK is one of the countries whose standard of living is falling and will fall much further. Already, councils cannot afford to repair potholes in the roads or mow verges so often. Roadside weeds in towns are increasing as are the numbers of homeless people. The NHS cannot cope with the numbers of patients and more and more are having to be treated privately. Schools are in meltdown and there has been a shortage of maths and science teachers for decades. There are not enough police on the streets and not enough prisons for offenders, who are increasingly being let off a jail sentence or having their sentence reduced to make room in the prisons. I've been living abroad for a decade and during that time, Britain has become more and more like a third-world country. Like watching your children grow up it's hard to notice the changes when you live among them daily. But if you didn't see your children for 10 years, you'd see an instant difference between the toddler you last saw and the developing adult before you now. The trouble is, while all these unnoticed changes are going on, councils are farting around with useless policies, such as expensive cycle lanes, when there are far more pressing problems that they should be addressing.
Thank you.
JCL666
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You appear to be bragging about an instance where you were able to make people unemployed via constructive dismissal.
There's a big difference between explaining to people that a company is in a bad way and redundancies will be necessary and the situation that you claim to have engineered.
JCL666
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This post is like a tag line for the Dailly mail.
Boroseagull
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Most of the ex-pats returning are those 'master builders/plumbers etc' who landed here in the 1990's to earn a 'quick buck'. Not only gaining a bad reputation they didn't pay into the social security system [Spain] & found themselves without any form of benefits & savings when the tough times came. It's far nicer here without them & us pensioners spend our hard earned pensions into the Spanish economy without taking a penny from their's. If a UK pensioner says they could not afford to live here then God help them upon returning to the UK!
As an aside, my daughter has recently returned after spending the last 3 years in Australia. Her husband walked out on her & she found it impossible to remain with the cost of living there. Upon returning to the UK in early December last, to sleep on our son & daughter in laws living room floor, she went to the Job Centre to register for work & maybe some help. All the help she was offered was to credit her NI contributions. No offer of anything else, and no she didn't really expect anything, but I wonder if she had arrived in the UK from elsewhere in the world if the response would have been the same?
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I would like to refer to Hovagirls post below
"The problem with the past decade of mass immigration, is that there was no real reason for it, except to try to boost the numbers of Labour voters among them"
This is true. It sums up everything that has been wrong with mass immigration from the start.
"The problem with the past decade of mass immigration, is that there was no real reason for it, except to try to boost the numbers of Labour voters among them"
This is true. It sums up everything that has been wrong with mass immigration from the start.
I don't know why you assume I am bitter. I'm not. I love Bulgaria and had a great time there. We weren't out to make a quick buck but wanted a house in the country which we could drive to from where we were living in Greece. The problem was, we couldn't find a decent builder, and the builder someone did recommend to us, had no idea about building. We realised we would have to be there as site foremen, or we would get done. But I'm not inexperienced and my experience told me that this was no builder, but a "quick-buck" handyman who had slapped up his own extension back in England and was now trying to make a living as a builder in Bulgaria. After a nearly month of watching his progress, I dismissed him because he seemed to think a long 5cm strip of metal would suffice as an RSJ. Luckily, we sold that house, but not at a profit. But during that time, we got to know Bulgaria very well and the living conditions of many of the very friendly and lovely people who invited us to their houses. Most of the houses we saw, as either visitors or viewers would be classed as slums over here, but that is the way many Bulgarians live every day. Conversely, the Brits over there, who have done up their houses, live in luxury.
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Then maybe the Daily Mail has a point , why not tell us what parts of her post are untrue, instead of the lazy dismissal,hoping that bringing the Mail into the equation will question its credibility, and cover up that it's pretty much bang on.
JCL666
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Hilarious. Mass immigration is a political connivance used to increase Labour votes....
JCL666
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Oh hello Bushy
The "levelling out" is not the reason why this country is experiencing financial problems. There is A GLOBAL recession.
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Absolutely , you're either naive , stupid or just dont want to admit the truth.
Labour wanted mass immigration to make UK more multicultural, says former adviser - Telegraph
The timing. Surely getting the country back on its feet is the first priority. If the EU is so important then do something which a much much quicker timeline.
Edit: PS I really do not have an issue with a referendum. The EU is an issue which needs to be dealt with and the UK either fully engages or it does not. This should be the in/out, not the new and lets not forget potentially, renogotiated terms.
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A great deal of what she says has got absolutely nothing to do with the recession, global or otherwise.
The Spanish
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you should live where people really do say famalam a lot and see if you are so into mass immigration then.
I can only presume the 10 years she spent abroad was living in some leathery skinned Spanish expat hell hole (which are drains on their resources) with the only pause in reading the Mail is to wolf down a spaghetti bolognaise with chips.
(there you go [MENTION=11956]bushy[/MENTION]
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Agree. But handy for any 15 year old sitting GSCE history this coming summer.
JCL666
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I have thanks.
JCL666
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Or Maybe I don't simply accept news stories that reflect my agenda. ...
m.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/oct/26/labour-immigration-plot-andrew-neather
My biggest frustration with mass immigration is what it has done to the labour market. The supply of labour has gone through the roof so this has depressed wages. Ever wondered why so many people are feeling the pinch these days? This is a big part of that.
The Spanish
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and then do exactly that! hahahahaha