[Albion] "Vaccine-status Certifications" may be required to attend sporting events

[Neville's Breakfast]

Everyone will be able to take a free rapid coronavirus test twice a week from the 9th April.

Reclaiming our lost freedoms & getting back to normal hinges on us all getting tested regularly.

Hancock’s latest tweet......there was me thinking it was the vaccine

People will need boosters if any vaccine resistant mutations/strains emerge. I think the pharmaceutical companies are already tweaking their vaccine formulae in anticipation. At these times there will be risk of further outbreaks. It can’t do any harm to have widespread testing as a part of routines.

 

[dsr-burnley]

People will need boosters if any vaccine resistant mutations/strains emerge. I think the pharmaceutical companies are already tweaking their vaccine formulae in anticipation. At these times there will be risk of further outbreaks. It can’t do any harm to have widespread testing as a part of routines.

I think twice-weekly cancer screening might be a more cost-effective use of funds.

As long as we know where serious illness is happening, which we will get via hospitals and doctors, then we should be OK. Spending billions on finding out who isn't ill seems a bit of a waste of time and money. But you can bet a pound to a jelly baby that these tests will be compulsory, de facto even if not formally in law. Is it hypocritical, or just ignorant, of the government to tell us that as long as they can track our every movement and check us for illness twice a week, then we will be free?

 

[LamieRobertson]

People will need boosters if any vaccine resistant mutations/strains emerge. I think the pharmaceutical companies are already tweaking their vaccine formulae in anticipation. At these times there will be risk of further outbreaks. It can’t do any harm to have widespread testing as a part of routines.

....billions in cost...I’m not convinced

Whitty says we will need to treat this like a flu season eventually ...we don’t seem to do testing for that....again is money better spent elsewhere

 

[The Wizard]

2 free rapid tests twice a week, ‘free’ has a real meaning of 400million per week (£3 per test) - for tests that have a 0.1% false positive rate, so if everyone in the U.K. did these tests twice per week, that would be circa 140k false positives every week.

I wonder if the government have a contract worth nearly a billion with some pals and need to use up some LF tests, I wonder......

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

2 free rapid tests twice a week, ‘free’ has a real meaning of 400million per week (£3 per test) - for tests that have a 0.1% false positive rate, so if everyone in the U.K. did these tests twice per week, that would be circa 140k false positives every week.

I wonder if the government have a contract worth nearly a billion with some pals and need to use up some LF tests, I wonder......

I don’t know that much about it. Do you or is that just an easy accusation ?
I found the below with a quick search. Are you saying these 3 companies are corrupt ?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/37011547-c7b1-403b-abfd-9b3e554fb4b2

 

[The Wizard]

I don’t know that much about it. Do you or is that just an easy accusation ?
I found the below with a quick search. Are you saying these 3 companies are corrupt ?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/37011547-c7b1-403b-abfd-9b3e554fb4b2

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

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A contract was awarded,yes. Are you saying it was awarded corruptly ? Not a loaded question. I am only asking because you suggested the entire process of providing free rapid flow tests was driven by corruption. I just wondered how you know or whether it was just a throw away conspiracy theory type comment.

 

[Eeyore]

Up the hooter for me and the boy - that's how he was shown at school. You'd have to ask a testing expert if the lateral flow tests can be done using the back of the throat.

I'm part of the ONS survey so they come round now and then. I have to do both the honker and the back of the throat.

 

[Guinness Boy]

I'm part of the ONS survey so they come round now and then. I have to do both the honker and the back of the throat.

Interesting. Never got a failed test from just the hooter. Will check the test instructions.

 

[LamieRobertson]

I don’t think this kind of mixed messaging helps

Hancock Saturday



Hancock today

 

[Creaky]

I don’t understand the logic, if you have been vaccinated then what have you got to worry about?

If the vaccines had a 100% efficacy rate then I would agree with you.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Everyone will be able to take a free rapid coronavirus test twice a week from the 9th April.

Reclaiming our lost freedoms & getting back to normal hinges on us all getting tested regularly.

Hancock’s latest tweet......there was me thinking it was the vaccine

Lol.

I'm obviously not with the program, but once I've had vaccine shot 2 I'll only get a test if I'm ill.

 

[Creaky]

Lol.

I'm obviously not with the program, but once I've had vaccine shot 2 I'll only get a test if I'm ill.

My wife’s a care worker and has had both shots - she is still tested twice a week with the lateral flow test and once a week at a test centre. Two of her colleagues, likewise vaccinated, have tested positive in the last three weeks.

I’m booked to get my second shot this week but will still take the opportunity to be tested regularly until such time as the virus is no more common than other contagious diseases. Why wouldn’t I? I don’t understand any reluctance to be tested in the same way as I don’t understand a reluctance to be vaccinated. The test is to protect others.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Lol.

I'm obviously not with the program, but once I've had vaccine shot 2 I'll only get a test if I'm ill.

As I understand it, being vaccinated protects you, but doesn’t prevent you being a carrier.

 

[LamieRobertson]

My wife’s a care worker and has had both shots - she is still tested twice a week with the lateral flow test and once a week at a test centre. Two of her colleagues, likewise vaccinated, have tested positive in the last three weeks.

I’m booked to get my second shot this week but will still take the opportunity to be tested regularly until such time as the virus is no more common than other contagious diseases. Why wouldn’t I? I don’t understand any reluctance to be tested in the same way as I don’t understand a reluctance to be vaccinated. The test is to protect others.

I don’t understand a lot of things but hey.....but I will question the necessity...and the cost of this suggestion ...and what timeline we are looking at, particularly after Whitty had said we will need to treat it like any other flu season

 

[LamieRobertson]

As I understand it, being vaccinated protects you, but doesn’t prevent you being a carrier.

....of something that eventually most people will either won’t get or if they do only in a mild form

 

[Thunder Bolt]

....of something that eventually most people will either won’t get or if they do only in a mild form

How long is eventually? Months, years?

 

[LamieRobertson]

How long is eventually? Months, years?

Well I think the current data gives us an idea don’t you think..but as Whitty has said we will need to treat it like flu if society is to function anywhere near its full potential

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Well I think the current data gives us an idea don’t you think..but as Whitty has said we will need to treat it like flu if society is to function anywhere near its full potential

That is open to interpretation. I think he was talking about society as a whole treating it like flu ie no more lockdowns, annual vaccination (maybe more frequently). The reality though is that Covid is a respiratory infection and a lot more deadly and transmissable than flu. The effects of future mutation of the virus is an unknown. There is also no such thing as Long flu whereas Covid often gives long term debilitating side effects. I really don’t want to catch Covid as potentially I am more vulnerable than many. Thankfully I am only weeks away from my second jab but I don’t think it unreasonable to remain cautious whilst hoping life returns to as near normal as possible.

 

[LamieRobertson]

That is open to interpretation. I think he was talking about society as a whole treating it like flu ie no more lockdowns, annual vaccination (maybe more frequently). The reality though is that Covid is a respiratory infection and a lot more deadly and transmissable than flu. The effects of future mutation of the virus is an unknown. There is also no such thing as Long flu whereas Covid often gives long term debilitating side effects. I really don’t want to catch Covid as potentially I am more vulnerable than many. Thankfully I am only weeks away from my second jab but I don’t think it unreasonable to remain cautious whilst hoping life returns to as near normal as possible.

I don’t think I’ve said much different to you re Whitty.

What the future is re variants who knows? ...some when we have to move forward ....sure caution will be wanted by some...others will want to go faster....but it all has to be weighed up against other aspects of life and not just dictated by covid ...particularly now we have a vaccine that helps the here and now