You`ve answered your own question. The virus is now no more common than other contagious diseases. The figures for positive tests have plummeted to almost zero. For people under age 80 with no comorbidiies, the risks from covid-19 are very small. There are also risks attached to taking an injection. Its a question of balance of risk for an individual depending on their own circumstances. There is little evidence of asymptomatic spread of covid 19, so mass testing is a vast waste of resources. However, as with the introduction of masks last summer, when the corona positive testing rates were equally low, the government hoped to encourage people back onto public transport and go out to boost economic activity. I see this testing and vaccination effort as part of the same political pantomime.
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[Albion] "Vaccine-status Certifications" may be required to attend sporting events
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You`ve answered your own question. The virus is now no more common than other contagious diseases. The figures for positive tests have plummeted to almost zero. For people under age 80 with no comorbidiies, the risks from covid-19 are very small. There are also risks attached to taking an injection. Its a question of balance of risk for an individual depending on their own circumstances. There is little evidence of asymptomatic spread of covid 19, so mass testing is a vast waste of resources. However, as with the introduction of masks last summer, when the corona positive testing rates were equally low, the government hoped to encourage people back onto public transport and go out to boost economic activity. I see this testing and vaccination effort as part of the same political pantomime.
The Wizard
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https://twitter.com/ianm1871/status/1379081576617799683?s=21
Matt Hancock in January ‘Testing healthy people isn’t reliable and we won’t do it’
2 days ago: ‘Vaccines are our route back to normality, make sure you get your jabs when called up’
Today: ‘Regularly testing healthy people twice per week is our route back to normality’
I very rarely say this, but I HATE Matt Hancock with a passion I’ve not often felt for any other person, it’s a struggle to believe he’s not just a big phony on a massive wind up trip, the under qualified, unelected, incompetent disgrace of a human being.
Matt Hancock in January ‘Testing healthy people isn’t reliable and we won’t do it’
2 days ago: ‘Vaccines are our route back to normality, make sure you get your jabs when called up’
Today: ‘Regularly testing healthy people twice per week is our route back to normality’
I very rarely say this, but I HATE Matt Hancock with a passion I’ve not often felt for any other person, it’s a struggle to believe he’s not just a big phony on a massive wind up trip, the under qualified, unelected, incompetent disgrace of a human being.
Spot on. Every time the goalposts are moved.
studio150
Well-known member
Is it just me but given that the lateral flow tests are undertaken at home and you record your own result on line, aren't they just a waste of time. In that if I want to attend a game and have no symptoms I can just record a negative outcome and attend the game safe in the knowledge that any temperature check will be fine. Or is there more to these tests that I'm not aware of.
How do the government prevent people from falsely recording a negative if they need this result to get into the pub or football or something?
nwgull
Well-known member
They’re all a bunch of *****. Ignoring the advice of SAGE on lockdowns at various points of the last 12 months is bordering on criminal.
SAGE are also part of the problem. We should have kept to October 2019 WHO advice on pandemics as followed by Sweden and Finland.
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
They’ll know by the length of your nose...worked for Pinnochio
What are other European countries doing I wonder?
EU leaders have backed introduction of a "Digital Green Certificate", but some countries, inside and outside the EU, have already announced plans for "vaccine passports".
Covid passports: What are different countries planning? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56522408
EU leaders have backed introduction of a "Digital Green Certificate", but some countries, inside and outside the EU, have already announced plans for "vaccine passports".
Covid passports: What are different countries planning? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56522408
Perfidious Albion
Well-known member
"Danes will have to show proof of vaccination, proof of earlier infection or a recent negative test to access services such as hairdressers, restaurants and cinemas
Sweden has been considering similar plans."
Someone said that the risks to the under 80s if healthy are very small........I would try telling that to my friend who recently lost his otherwise healthy wife to Covid. She was 60ish.
Sweden has been considering similar plans."
Someone said that the risks to the under 80s if healthy are very small........I would try telling that to my friend who recently lost his otherwise healthy wife to Covid. She was 60ish.
My understanding is you get a unique code from the test which you then enter into the app, or something like that?
The Wookiee
Back From The Dead
How does this compare to other countries?
Do you think we are now winning the battle ?
Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
Yep and my American friend's dad in his 60's died from Covid 2 weeks ago. He didn't believe Covid was very dangerous and refused a vaccine. He was otherwise healthy.
I was thinking more along the lines of you get a negative friend to stick the swab up their nose, or you don’t stick the swab anywhere before testing it etc. I’m just curious what safeguards are in place to stop abuse of self-testing.
Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
That is correct, Lateral Flow Tests are recorded in that manner.
Neville's Breakfast
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If it’s anything like the school testing then the answer is none. My wife self tests twice a week and loads her results on to a website. She could be testing the dog for all the authorities know. Society’s protection from the virus is reliant on most people doing the right thing. It’s a bit like drink driving in that respect ie generally unenforceable but having guidance for decent people can save lives even if selfish people will still cost lives of others.
Fair enough. I am sure the vast majority of people will do the right thing. I just worry that some idiot might be tempted to fiddle the results and cause an outbreak at the football or a concert etc.
Neville's Breakfast
Well-known member
It’s a valid worry. It’s one of the reasons I am a little doubtful when people say everything returns to normal in June. We have theatre tickets in Liverpool postponed from February to May and now to September. We are looking forward to it but won’t be skipping there without a care in the world.
It might be that self tests can’t be used for this purpose. There are loads of test centres doing the quick swab test and then you get an official sms to show results within an hour.
As someone doing the self tests at home you don’t even have to do a test. You can simply go to the website, put your name, date & ‘result’ in and job done. You don’t even log in, just enter basic details & submit.
I am assuming that Johnson is telling the truth.....
But when this is rolled out won’t everyone have had at least 1 jab?
What are the chances of an outbreak happening and causing an issue?