UKIP Foster Parents

[redhill seagull 66]

Anyway I have friends and loved ones and a Doctor and MacMillan Nurses who gave my Mother first rate hospice care, all of whom would not be in my life if UKIP had it's dismal little way, so UKIP can go f*** themselves.

best you get used to the fact that ukip is growing fast.

 

[BigGully]

Anyway I have friends and loved ones and a Doctor and MacMillan Nurses who gave my Mother first rate hospice care, all of whom would not be in my life if UKIP had it's dismal little way, so UKIP can go f*** themselves.

Are you implying that without those immigrants that care wouldnt have been there ?

This is the great immigration myth, I cannot remember in my lifetime when I went to a hospital, hotel, holiday park, school etc when there was a sign saying 'closed, very sorry just havent got the staff '.

The ethnicity of those workers may have changed, but that care and hardwork was also done previously, no doubt.

 

[User removed 4]

You've had it about four times already.

But I haven't have I ? For (hopefully) the last time , WHERE HAVE I MENTIONED HUMAN RIGHTS ON THIS THREAD ?? AND HOW ARE HUMAN RIGHTS IN ANY WAY PERTINENT TO THIS ISSUE ,WHICH IS A BLATANT CASE OF A SOCIAL WORKERS POLITICAL BIAS TAKING PRECEDENCE OVER THE WELFARE OF THE CHILDREN , anyone would think you were trying to avoid answering me.

 

[Nibble]

best you get used to the fact that ukip is growing fast.

It's experiencing a temporary peak in interest, that doesn't mean it will translate into votes and they will slink back into obcscurity when the economy stabilises, we've seen it all before . YAAAAwn

 

[Nibble]

But I haven't have I ? For (hopefully) the last time , WHERE HAVE I MENTIONED HUMAN RIGHTS ON THIS THREAD ?? AND HOW ARE HUMAN RIGHTS IN ANY WAY PERTINENT TO THIS ISSUE ,WHICH IS A BLATANT CASE OF A SOCIAL WORKERS POLITICAL BIAS TAKING PRECEDENCE OVER THE WELFARE OF THE CHILDREN , anyone would think you were trying to avoid answering me.

They'd be right, you are a moron and I cannot be bothered. Now calm down dear.

 

[User removed 4]

Anyway I have friends and loved ones and a Doctor and MacMillan Nurses who gave my Mother first rate hospice care, all of whom would not be in my life if UKIP had it's dismal little way, so UKIP can go f*** themselves.

The way people like you go on ,anyone would think we didnt have doctors and nurses in this country before immigration started.

 

[User removed 4]

They'd be right, you are a moron and I cannot be bothered. Now calm down dear.

You havent got an answer, and its plain for all to see.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Anyway I have friends and loved ones and a Doctor and MacMillan Nurses who gave my Mother first rate hospice care, all of whom would not be in my life if UKIP had it's dismal little way, so UKIP can go f*** themselves.

And under a points based system, those very people would have been allowed into the country if there was a requirement - i.e. if we're short of Doctors then Doctors who apply will get a higher score and thus be granted entry. Plenty of other countries already use this type of system.

 

[Nibble]

Are you implying that without those immigrants that care wouldnt have been there ?

This is the great immigration myth, I cannot remember in my lifetime when I went to a hospital, hotel, holiday park, school etc when there was a sign saying 'closed, very sorry just havent got the staff '.

The ethnicity of those workers may have changed, but that care and hardwork was also done previously, no doubt.

Did I say that. I'm an educated man dear boy, I wouldn't spout claptrap like that. No, what I am talking about is the individual human beings that I met and formed bonds with. Yes, there will always be staff and nurses etc. But these are people I am glad to know because of who they are, not the position the fill. I know that's a hard concept to grasp, hence the racists of the world but there it is.

 

[daveinprague]

The numbers were low though Bushy...many of the doctors and nurses were lured to the USA on big salaries....if there were enough doctors and nurses, then doctors and nurses from other countries wouldnt have been needed, shirley?

 

[Nibble]

You havent got an answer, and its plain for all to see.

Oh for God's sake, You pathetic child. The point I was making was that you and others disagree with the decision to remove the children because the foster parents support UKIP. I then went on to point out that yourself and the other racists on the board don't seem to care about people's rights but now it's a pair of white UKIP supporters you suddenly care. On this specific thread you haven't used the term Human Rights that I am aware of, the fact that you disagree with the decision leads me to the conclusion that you think they have been wronged and from your past posts it shows a double standard. If you can comprehend that at all? The reason it's taken me a while to answer you is that I knew it would take time to put into terms that you MAY understand. Now, that's your question answered, wind yer neck in son.

 

[Nibble]

The way people like you go on ,anyone would think we didnt have doctors and nurses in this country before immigration started.

Bushy, read the explanation that was not what I was saying at all. You're in over your head on this one Bushy, I'd bow out gracefuly if I were you.

 

[BigGully]

Did I say that. I'm an educated man dear boy, I wouldn't spout claptrap like that. No, what I am talking about is the individual human beings that I met and formed bonds with. Yes, there will always be staff and nurses etc. But these are people I am glad to know because of who they are, not the position the fill. I know that's a hard concept to grasp, hence the racists of the world but there it is.

Steady on there Nibble ... I have experienced the same, but my conclusions are a little different.

It is not racist to offer a view of employment displacement.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Oh for God's sake, You pathetic child. The point I was making was that you and others disagree with the decision to remove the children because the foster parents support UKIP. I then went on to point out that yourself and the other racists on the board don't seem to care about people's rights but now it's a pair of white UKIP supporters you suddenly care. On this specific thread you haven't used the term Human Rights that I am aware of, the fact that you disagree with the decision leads me to the conclusion that you think they have been wronged and from your past posts it shows a double standard. If you can comprehend that at all? The reason it's taken me a while to answer you is that I knew it would take time to put into terms that you MAY understand. Now, that's your question answered, wind yer neck in son.

You've posted some shite but this bit tops the lot. Where has anyone suggesting this had anything to do with race ? Indeed, the couple have not been identified so how come YOU know they're white ? All we know is that they weren't the same ethnic background as the children. For someone throwing the racist insult around so freely you've accidently exposed your own insecurities around race - making you a racist.

 

[Nibble]

Steady on there Nibble ... I have experienced the same, but my conclusions are a little different.

It is not racist to offer a view of employment displacement.

Understood, My point was more about the people and loved ones I have met. I mean you wouldn't say well there's no point loving your wife 'cos if it wasn't that woman it'd be someone else. That's not how the world works.

 

[Nibble]

You've posted some shite but this bit tops the lot. Where has anyone suggesting this had anything to do with race ? Indeed, the couple have not been identified so how come YOU know they're white ? All we know is that they weren't the same ethnic background as the children. For someone throwing the racist insult around so freely you've accidently exposed your own insecurities around race - making you a racist.

You have failed to understand the point. Why am I not surprised?

 

[Westdene Seagull]

You have failed to understand the point. Why am I not surprised?

Probably because you use a lot of bluster and accusations but back none of them up with straight answers. So come on then, how do YOU know they're white ?

 

[Nibble]

Probably because you use a lot of bluster and accusations but back none of them up with straight answers. So come on then, how do YOU know they're white ?

I don't As a point of order it's not the point I was making. You see, this is why I end up giving up with the likes of you because you don't stick to the point, you pick up on minutae and we go round and round. Exactly the reason single policy party's fail.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

actually the whole story is founded upon political prejudice. the foster couple are ex Labour supporters and fostering for 7 years, then switch political alligence and are suddenly unsuitable.

This kind of insinuation, has been reapeated a few times in this thread, and I'd like to take issue with it.
The 'Labour council' didn't remove these children from the care of these foster parents. An individual social worker (of unspecified political leanings) responsible for the childrens' well-being has made that call.

From the facts as they are presented, it seems a strange call, and not one, I am confortable with, but it is the call of the individual(s) involved.

My mum is a social worker in Brighton. She's not a Green supporter. If she makes a call on a child's future that you don't agree with, is that the Green's fault?

 

[BigGully]

Understood, My point was more about the people and loved ones I have met. I mean you wouldn't say well there's no point loving your wife 'cos if it wasn't that woman it'd be someone else. That's not how the world works.

Aaaah but your talking about love, I am talking about someone employed to sweep the floor.