Time for Dick Knight to f*** off

[tedebear]

No stupid, but offering attractive investment deals to potential investors would be a good start? Or perhaps the directors and determined not to see a dilution of their own stakes in the Club?

How would we attract investors now, whats attractive about being in limbo? Would you invest in something that may happen? Please sir, give us some of your money as we might get a stadium in a few years....Hardly an attractive proposition?

However I'd be sure once the yes verdict is granted that there will be a few investors popping out of the woodworks...

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

dont give a f*** tight f*** off u c u n t

What a reasoned argument you present. Why do you want him out now? Because the team's lost a few games? Or because you know someone who would be willing to take the club over? Unlikely I think. Overall, Dick Knight has done a great job and is the best chairman we've ever had.

 

[The Large One]

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How is everyone going to designated parking sites then being ferried in clapped-out old buses "sustainable transport"? Get those rose-tinted glasses off and your tongue out of Tight's arse!

Oh dear. Not exactly up to speed, are we?

OK, I'll tell you very slowly. Withdean Stadium is located in a residential area. That means that's where people live. With me so far? The people who live in these residential areas don't want people parking in their street. The council also doesn't want people parking in their street. So, those who live a long way away whoe drive to Brighton have to park somewhere. So we have designated areas called 'Park & Ride' sites. From there, a courtesy bus takes you close to the ground. This use of public transport is known as 'sustainable transport'. It is a good use of public facilities which caters for all parties' needs.

There's nothing rose-tinted about it. It's called common sense, something I believe you're on vague nodding terms with.

Earlier in this thread I labelled you as one of those people who were a bit stupid. It would be sooo nice if you could make the merest effort to try and disprove that. Go on, try it.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

How would we attract investors now, whats attractive about being in limbo? Would you invest in something that may happen? Please sir, give us some of your money as we might get a stadium in a few years....Hardly an attractive proposition?

However I'd be sure once the yes verdict is granted that there will be a few investors popping out of the woodworks...

Ted, I think the people asking for DK et al (although I am not sure what Al has done wrong) live in a fantasy world.

We just have to sit tight and wait for the 'Yes' verdict.

Without Dick and the rest of the board, we would not have a club. Have the 'Knight outers' had their heads buried in the sand for the last 12 years!?

We won't be able to get a millionaire investor, just because you really really want one!

 

[Yorkie]

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About a mile along Snakey Lane.

With pleasant company and it's good exercise.

 

[tedebear]

Agreed Barrel, just can't believe what some of these people want and believe can happen at this point in time....its a bit far fetched really until we get our "yes"....

 

[The Large One]

Ted, I think the people asking for DK et al (although I am not sure what Al has done wrong) live in a fantasy world.

We just have to sit tight and wait for the 'Yes' verdict.

Without Dick and the rest of the board, we would not have a club. Have the 'Knight outers' had their heads buried in the sand for the last 12 years!?

We won't be able to get a millionaire investor, just because you really really want one!

That's faaaar too intelligent for some to get their heads round.

 

[Nemesis]

Have the 'Knight outers' had their heads buried in the sand for the last 12 years!?

Even worse-firmly lodged up Ernest's ARS!

 

[tedebear]

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With pleasant company and it's good exercise.

It is good to be honest! Although a bit muddy midwinter....But I don't mind in the slightest!!

 

[BensGrandad]

Brian, if you think we will have a 12,000 all seater at Withdean, how do you overcome the fundamental planning failure that you cannot allow a flow of more than 10,000 through the railway tunnel?

Do you ignore it and then when someone dies because of the crush just shrug your shoulders?

I find sometimes your logic quite staggering.

My reasoning on this is that the escape route , I believe , would be out of the North Stand and turn LEFT in the case of an emergency and that the road would be closed down by the bend so that that the only people who could use either of the two bridges that are in question are those in the end nearest to the original entrance and those in the South Stand. The North Stand and what is now the away end, which if it happened, the numbers would be greatly increased, would leave via the entrances near The Sportsman.

The club i.e MP has said many times that there is no alternative site to to Falmer and logic tells me that if that is the case the only possible alternative is to stay where we are. The capacity now is set at around 9,000, although we never get that many attend, so to increase it by another 2 or 3000 would only mean building a larger stand at the West End of the ground. The North Stand could be added to and go a little higher and still not interfere with the views/light of the residents.

The P & R is already in place and with the addition of another site could be extended.

Perhaps I am giving too much credence to LDC but although we do not like it they appear to be doing the right things in their eyes to stop us and if they are successful, which you must consider is a possibility, what will happen to us.

DK could not afford to go through all of this again, the fan base would drop off drastically, we could possibly finish up either Non League or out of business. The one thing that is sure is that it is unlikely that we would survive another 10 years like the last 10.

 

[The Large One]

My reasoning on this is that the escape route , I believe , would be out of the North Stand and turn LEFT in the case of an emergency and that the road would be closed down by the bend so that that the only people who could use either of the two bridges that are in question are those in the end nearest to the original entrance and those in the South Stand. The North Stand and what is now the away end, which if it happened, the numbers would be greatly increased, would leave via the entrances near The Sportsman.

The club i.e MP has said many times that there is no alternative site to to Falmer and logic tells me that if that is the case the only possible alternative is to stay where we are. The capacity now is set at around 9,000, although we never get that many attend, so to increase it by another 2 or 3000 would only mean building a larger stand at the West End of the ground. The North Stand could be added to and go a little higher and still not interfere with the views/light of the residents.

The P & R is already in place and with the addition of another site could be extended.

It's not about the 'escape' route (i.e. somewhere to go in an emergency), it's about the exit route, and the majority of people go through the Tongdean Lane tunnel. If that tunnel is there, they will go through it. The only way to stop people going through that tunnel is to close it. The tunnel would have to be extended in size (at prohibitive cost, and at unnaceptable disruption to the mainline rail services) in order for any expansion of capacity at Withdean to be considered.

This is notwithstanding that a permanent Withdean Stadium construction is not in the Local Plan and will therefore not be given planning permission, no matter how much you think bribes will work.

Perhaps I am giving too much credence to LDC but although we do not like it they appear to be doing the right things in their eyes to stop us and if they are successful, which you must consider is a possibility, what will happen to us.

You are giving them too much credence. There is nothing in the Lewes District Council challenge which will make Ruth Kelly change John Prescott's decision.

 

[tedebear]

My reasoning on this is that the escape route , I believe , would be out of the North Stand and turn LEFT in the case of an emergency and that the road would be closed down by the bend so that that the only people who could use either of the two bridges that are in question are those in the end nearest to the original entrance and those in the South Stand. The North Stand and what is now the away end, which if it happened, the numbers would be greatly increased, would leave via the entrances near The Sportsman.

The club i.e MP has said many times that there is no alternative site to to Falmer and logic tells me that if that is the case the only possible alternative is to stay where we are. The capacity now is set at around 9,000, although we never get that many attend, so to increase it by another 2 or 3000 would only mean building a larger stand at the West End of the ground. The North Stand could be added to and go a little higher and still not interfere with the views/light of the residents.

The P & R is already in place and with the addition of another site could be extended.

Perhaps I am giving too much credence to LDC but although we do not like it they appear to be doing the right things in their eyes to stop us and if they are successful, which you must consider is a possibility, what will happen to us.

DK could not afford to go through all of this again, the fan base would drop off drastically, we could possibly finish up either Non League or out of business. The one thing that is sure is that it is unlikely that we would survive another 10 years like the last 10.

But we will never ever EVER get planning permission? NEVER!

Or am I being thick here about why you're wasting your thoughts on this issue?

I'm confucioused...

 

[BensGrandad]

The only way to stop people going through that tunnel is to close it. .

Or put a temporary barrier across the road/Pavement to stop access to the tunnels, other than from the South stand and old away end ,which is now the family enclosure.

The P & R would then leave up near the entrance/ exit that used by the away supporters at the present.

 

[WATFORD zero]

I think cjd, 3gulls, kestrel, Ben's Grandad etc have put forward some very good points about the lack of investment on the team and the fact that we always take the cheap option. I think that we should start speculating to accumulate, rather than rely on the young kids to have to step up. So who is going to put upt the first 100K to be used on the playing side ?




























Anyone ??

 

[vulture]

I think cjd, 3gulls, kestrel, Ben's Grandad etc have put forward some very good points about the lack of investment on the team and the fact that we always take the cheap option. I think that we should start speculating to accumulate, rather than rely on the young kids to have to step up. So who is going to put upt the first 100K to be used on the playing side ?


The chairman or he should step off the pot

 

[Pavilionaire]

This is my first post on this thread and I can't believe some people want Knight out at this stage of the proceedings.

The guy is in his 70s and has committed a personal fortune to this club to keep it from going under. You couldn't get a more committed chairman.

Sure, he is not a "football" man and has made some big mistakes along the way, but he's also got loads right - without him God knows where this club would be.

 

[BensGrandad]

I think cjd, 3gulls, kestrel, Ben's Grandad etc have put forward some very good points about the lack of investment on the team and the fact that we always take the cheap option. I think that we should start speculating to accumulate, rather than rely on the young kids to have to step up. So who is going to put upt the first 100K to be used on the playing side ?


Sorry but where have I mentioned anything about lack of investment during this season.

I fully accept that we are 'skint' and will be so until Falmer is resolved one way or the other.

I will admit to being concerned over getting permission for Falmer and have offered my ideas or thoughts on what will happen but as far as the team goes I think that we will win a few and lose a few this season and finish in mid table mediocrity.



























Anyone ??

 

[Lord Bracknell]

I believe that we will be refused Falmer and Plan B, move the athletics to Sussex University and redevelope Withdean will click into operation despite all the protests of many that it cannot happen because of A, B, Withdean Residents etc.

For what it's worth ...

... that is precisely the proposal put forward some years ago by Falmer Parish Council.

It cannot happen, not just "because of A, B, Withdean Residents etc.", but because the City Council would actively oppose it.

Especially after the May elections, when there is a good chance that control of the City Council will be in the hands of the Conservative group, whose support for the Albion is absolutely conditional on Withdean ceasing to be our stadium.

 

[Dave the OAP]

Especially after the May elections, when there is a good chance that control of the City Council will be in the hands of the Conservative group, whose support for the Albion is absolutely conditional on Withdean ceasing to be our stadium.

is it? I didn't know that.

Blimey - if Ruth Kelly says No we might as well close the gates then

 

[ROSM]

For what it's worth ...

... that is precisely the proposal put forward some years ago by Falmer Parish Council.

It cannot happen, not just "because of A, B, Withdean Residents etc.", but because the City Council would actively oppose it.

Especially after the May elections, when there is a good chance that control of the City Council will be in the hands of the Conservative group, whose support for the Albion is absolutely conditional on Withdean ceasing to be our stadium.

I'll await the usual posts from 'those in the know' who'll say that this is just scaremongering and that there's always an alternative.

It just seems that no matter how often this has been said, there are still those who would love to believe otherwise.