Video title "Russia's Military is TRAPPED - Will Putin Admit DEFEAT?"
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And as far as I can tell, it doesn't even address the clickbait title.
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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)
- Thread starter vegster
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Video title "Russia's Military is TRAPPED - Will Putin Admit DEFEAT?"
Video is 20 minutes long.
And as far as I can tell, it doesn't even address the clickbait title.
- Aug 24, 2020
- 7,709
A lesson from the past.
How to deal with the Russians of fifty years ago. (Hint: they haven't changed. They lied and cheated then, and they still do).
How to deal with the Russians of fifty years ago. (Hint: they haven't changed. They lied and cheated then, and they still do).
Sirnormangall
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- Sep 21, 2017
- 3,290
Very true - even though it comes from the mouth of tricky Dicky
Sirnormangall
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- Sep 21, 2017
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Yes well done Steve. I admit to having a chuckle at much of what Lukashenko said, in particular his statement near the end that Belarus has a “harsh form of democracy”
'Don't overdo it, Steve': The BBC in testy exchange with Belarus president
After an election win which has been widely criticised as illegitimate, Alexander Lukashenko faced questions from the BBC's Russia editor Steve Rosenberg.www.bbc.co.uk
Belarus: 'The leader faces no serious challenge'
It's election day in Belarus - with Alexander Lukashenko set to continue his 31-year-long rule of the country.www.bbc.co.uk
Nice job, Steve
- Aug 24, 2020
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Uh-oh. Putin's squads are on the march. Some of the replies are good.
Babushkas on the march - all got their Rosa Klebb shoes on, I guess! I can see why they want any meeting to take place in Russia - Putin could be arrested outside Russia!
- Aug 24, 2020
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I like the 'the point is there is a world of hostility around us due to the "SMO", we did not start it. We were forced to fight back'.
In other news, the Russian Federation complains of having the entirety of its 3000 km western border, up against 'unfriendly' countries, when it was only 2000km of unfriendly countries before the SMO started, which they didn't start by the way. This remains a mystery to Russians.
It remains a mystery because they choose to remain f*cking stupid people.
fly high
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Er, marching towards Kyiv! What at 50 yds a day costing thousands of Russian dead & injured, by the time they make it to the Atlantic there won't be any Russians left.
- Aug 24, 2020
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The 1500-2000 dead Russians a day is just one thing of many that they won't have been told. We should never dismiss things like this as just more Russian bollox, as they can be highly illuminating.
For instance, I'm glad you posted that. I'm interested about the aim to get to the Atlantic coast. This won't have just come out of thin air. It has cropped up a number of times now on Russian state TV. The ones I can recall were from a Medvedev rant, and a comment from a pundit on a propaganda show, who mentioned that Russian agents were operating in Portugal. All curated of course. You may dismiss this aim to get to the Atlantic as disinformation/threat, or you may look upon it as a genuine long term aim. I would counsel that we take the latter view, just in case.
In the unlikely event that the peace negotiations actually work, I would suggest that all the Russian shit it exports to the wider world, stops. We have seen how the sanctions can work. We can use them as levers in the future management of our Russian friends.
Yep, I agree.
When Russia says they won't do something aggressive, like invade Ukraine, we know they are lying.
When Russia state or propagandists (also state sponsored) say they WILL do something aggressive (like get to the Atlantic...yes, I remember those stated goals months back) then believe them... it's their long term goal.
happypig
Staring at the rude boys
The Russian psyche seems to be less concerned with improving their own lives and fortunes and more about a desire to make everyone else poorer like them so they are more equal. There seems to be no aspiration beyond humbling their "enemies". Contrast that with places like America or India, where they look up to people who have done well and seek to emulate them.
I don't know how you change a culture with that sort of mindset.
Indeed, it's a very destructive mindset.
I don't think the Russian people choose to be stupid. The media is controlled by a bunch of self serving psychotic genocidal nazis. The Russian people need to see St Moscow and St Petersburg ablaze. Then they will realise that their great tzar and his cronies have no interest in them, and that their modus operandi is to regain historic territory and destabilise the west, irrespective of carnage inflicted upon Russian citizens and the wider world.
- Aug 24, 2020
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Now that we are talking about Russian mindsets etc, this might be a good time to introduce a new Youtuber to the forum.
Her name is Elvira Bary, born in Russia and an author. She is quite engaging, if slightly unhinged.
She speaks of the feudalism that governs Russian society, the existence of a social pyramid and the modern Russian nobility. Access to the kormushka, or feeding trough is determined by whether you are born into it, or patronage. She ends up with an account of Margarita Simonyan's meteoric career rise to head of RT at age 25.
She has another video about propaganda, which I have not watched yet.
Her name is Elvira Bary, born in Russia and an author. She is quite engaging, if slightly unhinged.
She speaks of the feudalism that governs Russian society, the existence of a social pyramid and the modern Russian nobility. Access to the kormushka, or feeding trough is determined by whether you are born into it, or patronage. She ends up with an account of Margarita Simonyan's meteoric career rise to head of RT at age 25.
She has another video about propaganda, which I have not watched yet.
fly high
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Sadly I really don't think many Russian people would see it that way. To them it would show their leaders were telling the truth all along, the west is evil & out to destroy them so must be destroyed first. They will say the Nazis tried to destroy Russia but we drove them out, never mind the hundred of thousands who died, hero's every one. Listening to the Nixon interview, basically saying what many of us on here have been saying for a long time, nothing will stop the Russians except the certainty that they will loose. The west HAS to increase it's military spend to show strength but apart from those countries on the front line we have shown little inclination to do so. Even after 3 years of war our government is putting off increasing military spend.
Has she been he's off RT for 19 years?
Slightly off topic but if anyone hasn't watched the recent excellent BBC documentary series "Corridors of Power" about US foreign policy actions (or, too often, inactions) since the end of the Cold War, the episodes covering Serbia and Kosovo are extremely relevant to the Russian mindset
Available on iPlayer and worth watching as a series, it's a tough watch at times and quite graphic in the footage so not for the faint hearted
Available on iPlayer and worth watching as a series, it's a tough watch at times and quite graphic in the footage so not for the faint hearted