[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

[SouthSaxon]

Not gonna say no to Turkey being by our side.

They may see this as a chance to further their EU membership ambitions, and there’s no love lost with Russia.

 

[peterward]

US is talking now about reclassifying Turkey as Middle Eastern and not European anymore.

 

[Binney on acid]

Direct action against Trump's golf course. Gaza was the catalyst (so, wrong thread technically).
I hope Scottish police spend little time trying to find the perpetrators.
I'm expecting to see direct action against Tesla soon, factories and/or dealerships.

https://www.bunkered.co.uk/golf-news/trump-turnberry-vandalism-palestine-action/

Raymondo, you've probably already seen the Simon Brodkin pranking the orange one with swastika golf balls video. If not, enjoy. If you've already seen it, watch the extended version again. It's great !

 

[Eric the meek]

Turkey wants equal involvement with the EU/UK defense initiatives.
He still seems to think (or hope) the US is a strong ally though.

Welcome aboard Turkey !

So that makes:

Ukraine - unparalleled experience of repelling Russia in an asymmetric war
Britain - nuclear deterrent
France - nuclear deterrent
Germany - manufacturing capacity
Turkey - large military
Poland - highly motivated border nation
Plus any other willing European country.

 

[peterward]

Russian state controlled propaganda TV openly talking about Trump potentially being agent Krasnov and lauding his every move.

 

[A1X]

Direct action against Trump's golf course. Gaza was the catalyst (so, wrong thread technically).
I hope Scottish police spend little time trying to find the perpetrators.
I'm expecting to see direct action against Tesla soon, factories and/or dealerships.

https://www.bunkered.co.uk/golf-news/trump-turnberry-vandalism-palestine-action/

Police are looking to speak to around 65 million suspects

 

[A1X]

Former PM continues to trample all over the one truly outstanding element of his legacy

 

[essbee1]

Police are looking to speak to around 65 million suspects

Good. Fu*k Trump.

 

[peterward]

Read yesterday that Russian puppet Orban wants to hold a national rig-a-thon (referendum) about wether Ukraine should join EU...... the man who has Putins electoral processes wants the veil of his rigged process "public support" to block Ukraine joining.

Good on Polish foreign secretary Radek Sikorski for coming up with the perfect solution for Orbans latest obstructive stunt.

 

[peterward]

Former PM continues to trample all over the one truly outstanding element of his legacy

Particularly liked this reply.

"On International Women's Day, I'm writing this tweet to try and stay relevant. I can't say I've given Ukrainian women a second thought, but if it helps push my article, I'll say anything"

 

[Sirnormangall]

Particularly liked this reply.

"On International Women's Day, I'm writing this tweet to try and stay relevant. I can't say I've given Ukrainian women a second thought, but if it helps push my article, I'll say anything"

I’m not often in agreement with him but I liked the bit about Trump not being able to afford to let Ukraine go down. Just hope Trump realises that too.

 

[Sirnormangall]

Read yesterday that Russian puppet Orban wants to hold a national rig-a-thon (referendum) about wether Ukraine should join EU...... the man who has Putins electoral processes wants the veil of his rigged process "public support" to block Ukraine joining.

Good on Polish foreign secretary Radek Sikorski for coming up with the perfect solution for Orbans latest obstructive stunt.

Got a lot of time for Sikorski. I think Orban needs to be careful what he wishes for - not sure he has the domestic support that he thinks he has

 

[raymondo]

US is talking now about reclassifying Turkey as Middle Eastern and not European anymore.

Could be interesting if the US pisses off Erdogan.

 

[Eeyore]

Got a lot of time for Sikorski. I think Orban needs to be careful what he wishes for - not sure he has the domestic support that he thinks he has

I'm sure that can be arranged with a few phone calls

 

[raymondo]

I’m not often in agreement with him but I liked the bit about Trump not being able to afford to let Ukraine go down. Just hope Trump realises that too.

I liked it but I'm not very sure I believe it at the moment. Trump can get a minerals deal whether Ukraine is saved or Russia allowed to take it.

 

[Sirnormangall]

Not gonna say no to Turkey being by our side.

Turkey is in NATO so it should already be on our side (but then so is Hungary and USA!). Turkey is key geographically - NATO should be able to control what goes in and out of the Black Sea (and Baltic) - isn’t it about time that was done?

 

[raymondo]

Welcome aboard Turkey !

So that makes:

Ukraine - unparalleled experience of repelling Russia in an asymmetric war
Britain - nuclear deterrent
France - nuclear deterrent
Germany - manufacturing capacity
Turkey - large military
Poland - highly motivated border nation
Plus any other willing European country.

My neighbor reckons our nuclear weapon thingies are not so autonomous .
Says the subs are ours, but the missiles are the US's and we have to get them MOTed by them regularly
France's are fully under local control i believe.
I haven't a clue.
@Deportivo Seagull maybe

 

[Sirnormangall]

I liked it but I'm not very sure I believe it at the moment. Trump can get a minerals deal whether Ukraine is saved or Russia allowed to take it.

Yes I’m probably being naïve to think Trump isn’t totally heartless and that occasionally he might consider the humanitarian side of the war and what he wants to be remembered for by the vast majority of of people (those who aren’t in his moronic domestic fan club)

 

[Eric the meek]

Turkey is in NATO so it should already be on our side (but then so is Hungary and USA!). Turkey is key geographically - NATO should be able to control what goes in and out of the Black Sea (and Baltic) - isn’t it about time that was done?

The last time I looked, in the middle of the war, Turkey was running cruises with several Turkish ports of call along the Turkish coast of the Black Sea, marketing to, and taking the money from, Russians.

I believe it's a cultural thing.

 

[Sirnormangall]

'Russia holds all the cards" = "I want Russia to win "

“Russia holds all the cards “ = Russia holds all the incriminating video tapes