[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

[Deportivo Seagull]

I hope so, I really do. Then watch Trump partner with Russia - he'll try to export vehicles to them first, and lift sanctions of course

I’m not sure he would as where is the money coming from …. And he doesn’t like siding with losers.

 

[Triggaaar]

According to Ryan McBeth, Russia has lost the war.

I don't watch his channel/read his reports. Is he prone to exaggeration? Some of the anti-Trump YT accounts constantly pump the same message for clicks, but their prophecies don't actually come true.

 

[Eric the meek]

I hope so, I really do. Then watch Trump partner with Russia - he'll try to export vehicles to them first, and lift sanctions of course

Tesla Cybertrucks? Apparently Kadryrov already has one, although he seems to have disappeared somewhere of late.

Maybe there's a lack of charging points in the more remote regions of Chechnya.

 

[raymondo]

Direct action against Trump's golf course. Gaza was the catalyst (so, wrong thread technically).
I hope Scottish police spend little time trying to find the perpetrators.
I'm expecting to see direct action against Tesla soon, factories and/or dealerships.

https://www.bunkered.co.uk/golf-news/trump-turnberry-vandalism-palestine-action/

 

[Eric the meek]

I don't watch his channel/read his reports. Is he prone to exaggeration? Some of the anti-Trump YT accounts constantly pump the same message for clicks, but their prophecies don't actually come true.

Tbh, I don't know. This is the first time I've watched him.

Jason Jay Smart of Kyivpost is OK though. I would have taken what McBeth says with a several pinches of salt, if we hadn't seen the videos of donkeys, other livestock, etc. He does say the Russians have still got tanks, and as we know, they still have a supply of missiles and drones.

 

[raymondo]

I’m not sure he would as where is the money coming from …. And he doesn’t like siding with losers.

Yeah but Putin has tons of bravado like errr Trump, so he doesn't look like he's losing.

 

[raymondo]

Tbh, I don't know. This is the first time I've watched him.

Jason Jay Smart of Kyivpost is OK though. I would have taken what McBeth says with a several pinches of salt, if we hadn't seen the videos of donkeys, other livestock, etc. He does say the Russians have still got tanks, and as we know, they still have a supply of missiles and drones.

According to 'Mark the Economist ', he thinks SERIOUS failures in the Russian economy could start in June.
I read somewhere that Russia sold 6 trillion (??) dollars of gold a few weeks back. I have no idea if that's true.

 

[Eric the meek]

According to 'Mark the Economist ', he thinks SERIOUS failures in the Russian economy could start in June.
I read somewhere that Russia sold 6 trillion (??) dollars of gold a few weeks back. I have no idea if that's true.

Thanks. I'll take a look at what Mark has got to say. He's been a bit quiet of late.

 

[peterward]

Direct action against Trump's golf course. Gaza was the catalyst (so, wrong thread technically).
I hope Scottish police spend little time trying to find the perpetrators.
I'm expecting to see direct action against Tesla soon, factories and/or dealerships.

https://www.bunkered.co.uk/golf-news/trump-turnberry-vandalism-palestine-action/

do you remember when we were a few years younger, there was the beastie boys led fad, where kids were vandalising and nicking VW badges.

Something similar with Teslas might happen one day! Maybe engraved swastikas on them would send sales tanking further.

Of course I'm not endorsing vandalism or direct action of any kind..... no really.

 

[peterward]

According to 'Mark the Economist ', he thinks SERIOUS failures in the Russian economy could start in June.
I read somewhere that Russia sold 6 trillion (??) dollars of gold a few weeks back. I have no idea if that's true.

6 trillion dollars? That can't be right.....thats a hell of a lot and would absolutetly tank the spot Gold price.

They don't have 6 trillion $ reserves imho.

Could it be billion or rubles not dollars?

 

[Eric the meek]

Yeah but Putin has tons of bravado like errr Trump, so he doesn't look like he's losing.

That's the key. Due to maskirovka and disinformation, things in Russia are going to be dire and considerably worse than the official picture.

We will always be behind the curve. Trump however, won't be that much behind the curve, as he will have all the intel info at his fingertips. Or at least he would have done until he sacked them all. So when he says 'Russia holds all the cards', it just doesn't sound true.

 

[peterward]

That's the key. Due to maskirovka and disinformation, things in Russia are going to be dire and considerably worse than the official picture.

We will always be behind the curve. Trump however, won't be that much behind the curve, as he will have all the intel info at his fingertips. Or at least he would have done until he sacked them all. So when he says 'Russia holds all the cards', it just doesn't sound true.

I agree, they will be dire.

And let's not forget, that Trump doesn't have a total monolopy on all intelligence, Ukraine will have moles and other western agencies will also have their own assessments of Russians ability to fund and prosecute their genocide.

 

[Eric the meek]

I agree, they will be dire.

And let's not forget, that Trump doesn't have a total monolopy on all intelligence, Ukraine will have moles and other western agencies will also have their own assessments of Russians ability to fund and prosecute their genocide.

I have never seen a live mole. I've seen plenty of circumstantial evidence that they do exist, but I've never seen one in the flesh.

(Please don't waste any time wondering what point I'm trying to make. There is no valid point to this, which only became apparent once I had started writing).

 

[peterward]

Trump "Putin wants peace"

 

[Anger]

I have never seen a live mole. I've seen plenty of circumstantial evidence that they do exist, but I've never seen one in the flesh.

(Please don't waste any time wondering what point I'm trying to make. There is no valid point to this, which only became apparent once I had started writing).

Follow the earth.

 

[raymondo]

do you remember when we were a few years younger, there was the beastie boys led fad, where kids were vandalising and nicking VW badges.

Something similar with Teslas might happen one day! Maybe engraved swastikas on them would send sales tanking further.

Of course I'm not endorsing vandalism or direct action of any kind..... no really.

No no, of course not but somebody might scratch swastikas on all Teslas on all forecourts... it's not impossible.

I do remember the VW fad - I waited for the craze to stop before I bought one!

 

[raymondo]

That's the key. Due to maskirovka and disinformation, things in Russia are going to be dire and considerably worse than the official picture.

We will always be behind the curve. Trump however, won't be that much behind the curve, as he will have all the intel info at his fingertips. Or at least he would have done until he sacked them all. So when he says 'Russia holds all the cards', it just doesn't sound true.

'Russia holds all the cards" = "I want Russia to win "

 

[raymondo]

Trump "Putin wants peace"

Trump said something like ' yeah, I understand what Putin's doing, he just wants to finish the war fast because he wants peace '.

 

[raymondo]

Turkey wants equal involvement with the EU/UK defense initiatives.
He still seems to think (or hope) the US is a strong ally though.

 

[GoldstoneVintage]

Turkey wants equal involvement with the EU/UK defense initiatives.
He still seems to think (or hope) the US is a strong ally though.

Not gonna say no to Turkey being by our side.