Rio has a pop at Ashley Cole

[severnside gull]

The popular term is "wigger"

............ but wiggers are fashionable (and white!)

 

[Common as Mook]

Will the Utd centric media conduct a terryesque witch hunt? Doubt it.

 

[severnside gull]

The tweet from carltonEbanks was directed to Rio.

I think it was an open tweet rather than a DM - I recall being criticised on the point when commenting on a palace fan tweeting about killing gay Brighton fans. I am assured however that by adding the suffix "lol" you can say whatever you please and it becomes amusing rather than threatening or derogatory

 

[pauli cee]

If that's what he thought, he should simply say 'it's bollox that Ashley is sticking up for Terry, wot Terry done is bang out of order and Ashley's an arse licking twat'. No need to bring race into that part of the argument.
I understand if it was used in a positive way, but if it was used as a slur against you, then it was racist. Perhaps you're not easily offended by racist remarks?

Ok, but that's got nothing to do with Rio & pal's remarks.

obviously no one knows exactly what was going that brainless head of rio's, but think we might have to agree to disagree on this one...

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I assume that was a complement about Damon, so it's not at all similar is it..

I am not comparing the severity of the terms because choc ice is clearly more insulting than Alex James' pop. My point is they both have the similar cultural connotations but in reverse and neither are racist. Choc ice is insulting because it suggests you have sold out and turned your back on your culture. Nothing racist about this in my view.

I think you all know my position now so I'm out.

 

[Triggaaar]

think we might have to agree to disagree on this one...

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Will the Utd centric media conduct a terryesque witch hunt? Doubt it.

Hope so.

 

[melias shoes]

I am not comparing the severity of the terms because choc ice is clearly more insulting than Alex James' pop. My point is they both have the similar cultural connotations but in reverse and neither are racist. Choc ice is insulting because it suggests you have sold out and turned your back on your culture. Nothing racist about this in my view.

I think you all know my position now so I'm out.

It is.

 

[Acker79]

I think it was an open tweet rather than a DM

I mean, the tweet itself started "@rioferdy5". It's like someone coming up to him in the street and saying it directly to him; sure, it's public, but the comment is directed to Rio.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

It is.

It is not.

 

[stripeyshark]

pot and kettle comes to mind

Post of the day.

 

[stripeyshark]

The term 'choc ice' is not racist. It's to suggest someone is somehow disloyal or lacking allegiance to those of their own race.

Which is racially divisive. something Terry's "comments" were accused of being. Can't stand Rio.

 

[beorhthelm]

It is not.

of course it is, it imping that being white is inferior, otherwise there is little insult.

at the end of the day the fact Rio removed his input tells you its not very clever.

 

[Goldstone Rapper]

Which is racially divisive. something Terry's "comments" were accused of being. Can't stand Rio.

Depends how you look at it. From a different perspective, Cole's actions were racially divisive and Ferdinand merely called him to account for it.

(Personally, I think this stuff about being loyal to one's own race is over-valued. Cole needed to call it as he saw it, not show loyalty to Terry because he's his team-mate, and not to act out of loyalty to Ferdinand because the pigment of his skin happens to be similar).

 

[Goldstone Rapper]

of course it is, it imping that being white is inferior, otherwise there is little insult.

at the end of the day the fact Rio removed his input tells you its not very clever.

It does not imply 'white is inferior', rather that people should stick up for their own. The complaint is that Cole is not racially loyal. That is the meaning illustrated by the second sentence in the tweet.

 

[beorhthelm]

It does not imply 'white is inferior', rather that people should stick up for their own. The complaint is that Cole is not racially loyal.

you dont see that "racial loyalty" is racism? there are far more race problem than we like to admit if this is a common view.

 

[severnside gull]

Depends how you look at it. From a different perspective, Cole's actions were racially divisive and Ferdinand merely called him to account for it.

Cole gave evidence under oath in a court of law................... if that is racially divisive we are indeed a nation divided against itself

 

[somerset]

Shirley a racist comment

It is a racist comment, but black people are not racist are they?

 

[Triggaaar]

Depends how you look at it. From a different perspective, Cole's actions were racially divisive and Ferdinand merely called him to account for it.

WTF? Remind us exactly what Cole did - didn't he just say that he didn't think Terry was racist?

 

[Goldstone Rapper]

you dont see that "racial loyalty" is racism? there are far more race problem than we like to admit if this is a common view.

At the very least, I think Rio's call for racial loyalty is misguided. I also agree that, generally, calls for racial loyalty are often driven by racism. However, there is nothing in the tweet that suggests any more than the short-sighted view that 'white people should stick up for white people, black people should stick up for black people.'