Question to the "we were awful all of last season and fluked all 69 points" brigade

[NMH]

The fact it is Micky makes people think that based on his previous success with us, it will just continue once he re-joined us, which is simply not how it works.

I wonder if it's the other way around, and that Adams is the one who thinks he could just pick up where he left off, and some kind of 'magic touch' would work, and automatically project us up the league.
That's not how it works either.

 

[Elder for England]

Because people have claimed, yourself included, that we were poor throughout last season and merely achieved 7th place through a series of meaningless wins at the end of the season.

Yeah, its fairly hard to comprehend that a manager would feel we need to make wholesale changes to a side that had just finished 7th.

Nobody's claiming it was down to a few meaningless wins at then end of the season, that's ridiculous, we're just saying don't let the fact we finished 7th cloud your judgement for the whole season. For the most part of it we didn't play well at all, although we did pick up wins along the way. Throughout the season not for one moment did we think we would achieve that position, with the team being poor, what does that tell you? It tells me that the fans didn't think much of the manager or the team at the time. Yes we achieved a great position but it doesn't mean any of that should be overlooked.

 

[Withdean Wanderer]

We played SHIT last season, however we still picked up results, mainly at HOME.

This season, we are playing similarly shit football, but aren't winning these games.

Why's that? The defence has turned shite. Who's fault is that? Adams, as much as I like the bloke.

 

[blue and white army]

Name me 6 performances from last season - BY THIS STAGE OF THE SEASON - that were as bad as the following from this season:

Scunthorpe at home (1-4)
Walsall at home (9 men opposition, 0-1)
Carlisle yesterday
Hereford at home (0-0 against bottom of league)
Leeds away (1-3)
Leyton Orient at home (0-0 at home against DIRE opposition)

Given that we were awful every week, and fluked every win when we should have been thrashed, this should be an absolute doddle for you.

Good luck

Port Vale at home is a start, Millwall Away

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Neither of those were by THIS STAGE OF THE SEASON.

 

[Elder for England]

Neither of those were by THIS STAGE OF THE SEASON.

Like I said in my earlier post, what's the stage of the season got to do with it, it's just a way of getting out of people stating many, many of the other poor games throughout the season.

 

[Questions]

For whatever reason, the quality in this division last season was piss-poor. 69 points flattered us immensely. Wilkins would not have got anywhere near the same total this season. In fact, he'd probably be about where Micky is now.

I think not having Butters this season has had a major impact. Our defence is suddenly seriously vulnerable to somebody running straight at them. They flap and f*** up.

You`re doing the ''Piss poor last season bit again''

For f*** sake explain or quantify that because I think its a load of bull.

 

[Withdean Wanderer]

Elder for England,

I don't want to sound like I'm picking on you, BUT:

Why do you stick up for Mickey? When taking time to weigh up both arguments, you do have some reasonable points. But I don't quite understand why you choose to defend him. What's he done (In this spell) that PLEASES you?

I'm NOT asking for you to prove he's better Wilkins (I HATED him with a passion!), but I don't see what Mickey has done to get your backing. I know you seem to have a thing for Hawkins, but even you can't deny the facts that we are leaking a lot more goals this season than last. The only real obvious positive I can see is Kevin Thornton?

 

[blue and white army]

Mill

 

[blue and white army]

Neither of those were by THIS STAGE OF THE SEASON.

Pretty Dire against Bristol Rovers at home last season failed to convert our chances

 

[Alex Alex Dawson oo! oo!]

Pretty Dire against Bristol Rovers at home last season failed to convert our chances

Cancelled out by the tactical rubbish (hoofing) we produced against Bristol Rovers at home this season imo - except that we only created one chance all game.

 

[Chesney Christ]

Like I said in my earlier post, what's the stage of the season got to do with it, it's just a way of getting out of people stating many, many of the other poor games throughout the season.

Two reasons:

1) People have claimed that we were bad THROUGHOUT last season, and I'm just disproving that by showing that for the first few months of last season we played a lot better than the first few months of this season, thus quashing that theory.

2) It is hardly fair to compare the worst performances of the first third of this season with the WHOLE of last season, as inevitably you will come up with more examples of bad performances over a 46 game season than you will from a (so far) 16 game season.

 

[Seasider78]

God the whole Wilkins thing is do boring can't people just accept he has gone and move on.

Just because we finished 7th last season does not mean we would have bettered that this season. For all anyone knows we could have been in the same position or worse if Wilkins was still here.

Lets not forget it was a good run after xmas that got us that 7th yet we seem unable to give MA the same patience and grace to see what he achieves come the end of the season.

None of this moaning achieves anything so why not back the manager and support him in turning around what everyone can agree has been a dissapointing start to the season.

 

[Elder for England]

Elder for England,

I don't want to sound like I'm picking on you, BUT:

Why do you stick up for Mickey? When taking time to weigh up both arguments, you do have some reasonable points. But I don't quite understand why you choose to defend him. What's he done (In this spell) that PLEASES you?

I'm NOT asking for you to prove he's better Wilkins (I HATED him with a passion!), but I don't see what Mickey has done to get your backing. I know you seem to have a thing for Hawkins, but even you can't deny the facts that we are leaking a lot more goals this season than last. The only real obvious positive I can see is Kevin Thornton?

I personally feel that our league position pappered over a lot of things wrong with last season, and so when Adams was appointed I was pleased (not because of who he is, but because he wasn't Wilkins). I didn't expect anything from Adams, other than I feel he is a better manager than Wilkins, but me personally, I take each game as it comes.

I'm not saying he has done anything specifically, I would be saying the same whoever the manager, I just think you need to give a manager a lot longer than 3 months before the kind of talk regarding getting rid and who else can we get in is being said. I say the same about other managers at clubs who aren't given a fair chance, in my opinion, I will give Adams at the very least till the end of the season.

 

[mcshane in the 79th]

Two reasons:

1) People have claimed that we were bad THROUGHOUT last season, and I'm just disproving that by showing that for the first few months of last season we played a lot better than the first few months of this season, thus quashing that theory.

2) It is hardly fair to compare the worst performances of the first third of this season with the WHOLE of last season, as inevitably you will come up with more examples of bad performances over a 46 game season than you will from a (so far) 16 game season.

It's not really fair to pick on the manager so early in his reign is it? Or even compare his first season to someone's second??

 

[mcshane in the 79th]

Elder for England,

I don't want to sound like I'm picking on you, BUT:

Why do you stick up for Mickey? When taking time to weigh up both arguments, you do have some reasonable points. But I don't quite understand why you choose to defend him. What's he done (In this spell) that PLEASES you?

I'm NOT asking for you to prove he's better Wilkins (I HATED him with a passion!), but I don't see what Mickey has done to get your backing. I know you seem to have a thing for Hawkins, but even you can't deny the facts that we are leaking a lot more goals this season than last. The only real obvious positive I can see is Kevin Thornton?

As Seasider78 says, what has happened to a little patience and grace?

 

[clapham_gull]

the list to chose from is.....

Crewe 1 - 2 Brighton - opening day
Cardiff 1 - 0 Brighton - Carling Cup
Tranmere 2 - 0 Brighton
Gillingham 1 - 0 Brighton
Brighton 1 - 2 Yeovil
Swansea 0 - 0 Brighton
Brighton 0 - 0 Bristol Rovers
Brighton 1 - 1 Walsall
Brighton 0 - 1 Leeds
Cheltenham 1 - 1 Brighton - FA Cup

This time last year we had 7 wins, 3 draws, 5 defeats = 24 points

I seem to recall us not playing badly against Leeds, who were probably the hardest team to beat at that point in the season. They scored late (like they had in many of their other games) and were still trying to get another late in injury time. So to include Leeds is a bit naughty.

 

[m20gull]

Yeah, its fairly hard to comprehend that a manager would feel we need to make wholesale changes to a side that had just finished 7th.

What wholesale changes? The main changes have been in midfield where even last season we were weak (and that's ALL season before and after Christmas). The back five this season has been mostly Kuipers, Richards, Whing, Elpick and ANOther. Up front, when fit, it's Murray and Forster.

 

[clapham_gull]

He Didn't Get Sacked For Finishing 7th

No-one is saying that though are there ? He got sacked despite finishing seventh.

 

[Mr Blunt]

For whatever reason, the quality in this division last season was piss-poor. 69 points flattered us immensely. Wilkins would not have got anywhere near the same total this season. In fact, he'd probably be about where Micky is now.

I think not having Butters this season has had a major impact. Our defence is suddenly seriously vulnerable to somebody running straight at them. They flap and f*** up.

Great post ..

Im not here to stick up for anyone but everyone must see that the divsion seems alot harder this season. The teams that have come down apart from colchester who i personally think will improve are strong. Also the teams that have come up are strong, look at peterborough and Mk dons.

Im sorry but nothing against Wilkins but it did flatter us last season with 69 points and people need to get over the Wilkins / Adams thing and get on with it.