[Politics] Protests/rioting in lots of places

[aolstudios]

Strangely major supporters of the international far right are Zionists and vice versa. What a f***ed up world we're living in.

Putin is interested only in chaos in the west & middle east. Depressingly he's been doing rather well

 

[Weststander]

You won't know whether to laugh or cry, this radio clash from 01:12 is a classic. Must admit I laughed. It heats up over the minutes. Tunnel vision from the opposing participants.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m00244pj

 

[carlzeiss]

 

[Giraffe]

Axel Rudakubana: Southport murders accused facing terror charge

Axel Rudakubana is accused of producing the poison ricin and possessing a study of an al-Qaeda training manual.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Jackthelad]

They really should change the law for crimes like this and show him how he looks now instead of the little boy photo. It’s clear from the artist’s sketches they use he looks nothing like this now. He looks like an adult.

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

It's another awful look, plays right in to Farage etc hands and increases the distrust there currently is

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

It's another awful look, plays right in to Farage etc hands and increases the distrust there currently is

The timing isn’t great at all regardless if if the intent to bury it was true or not

 

[jcdenton08]

Well the truth on this occasion is that this was a conspiracy within the authorities and the media to hush up the fact this was an Islamic terrorist attack. I’m sure they have noble reasons (namely preventing outcry, retaliatory attacks, innocent Muslims being targeted - until the story was out of the news cycle and the outrage had calmed), but the fact remains this was a concerted effort to mislead the public on the truth of the matter.

Why are they using a picture of this terrorist as a schoolboy?

 

[cjd]

Is this genuinely from Dominic Cummings ..

 

[Weststander]

On C4 News now.

 

[beorhthelm]

Well the truth on this occasion is that this was a conspiracy within the authorities and the media to hush up the fact this was an Islamic terrorist attack. I’m sure they have noble reasons (namely preventing outcry, retaliatory attacks, innocent Muslims being targeted - until the story was out of the news cycle and the outrage had calmed), but the fact remains this was a concerted effort to mislead the public on the truth of the matter.

Why are they using a picture of this terrorist as a schoolboy?

did the authorities knew at the time of arrest about the ricin and Al-Qaeda fetish? not what the reports are saying, discovered as part of investigations, so there was no hush-up just part of process, being whipped up by those that want to make a thing about it.

 

[jcdenton08]

did the authorities knew at the time of arrest about the ricin and Al-Qaeda fetish? not what the reports are saying, discovered as part of investigations, so there was no hush-up just part of process, being whipped up by those that want to make a thing about it.

I’m sure there will be a full investigation into this, and it will come out at trial with interview transcripts and bodycam footage exactly what they knew and when.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Bit rich coming from a man who’s entire role within government appeared to be that of chief liar.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I’m sure there will be a full investigation into this, and it will come out at trial with interview transcripts and bodycam footage exactly what they knew and when.

 

[Boroseagull]

did the authorities knew at the time of arrest about the ricin and Al-Qaeda fetish? not what the reports are saying, discovered as part of investigations, so there was no hush-up just part of process, being whipped up by those that want to make a thing about it.

According to ITN news this evening the police discovered all this when searching his house the next day.

 

[Zeberdi]

Well the truth on this occasion is that this was a conspiracy within the authorities and the media to hush up the fact this was an Islamic terrorist attack. I’m sure they have noble reasons (namely preventing outcry, retaliatory attacks, innocent Muslims being targeted - until the story was out of the news cycle and the outrage had calmed), but the fact remains this was a concerted effort to mislead the public on the truth of the matter.

Why are they using a picture of this terrorist as a schoolboy?

I’m a bit confused by your comments.

The Southport killings weren’t deemed a terrorist attack by the police and according to the news I have looked at on actual news sites, Southport is still not being deemed a terrorist attack. In order for there to be a terrorist attack there needs to be a motive present which the Counter Terrorism police haven’t (yet) established in the Southport killings. No one covered anything up afaics.

Subsequently, after the stabbings, the property was searched and he is now being charged with separate offences under S1 of the Biological Weapons Act 1974 for the production of ricin (which presented a low risk to the public) and under S58 of the Terrorism Act 2000 for possession of a document that could be used to plan a terror attack.

Apparently the police are still investigating the stabbings and as such will be very reticent about releasing any information to protect the integrity of their case.

Not all hoof sounds are the sounds of zebras - some are just horses

 

[AstroSloth]

Well the truth on this occasion is that this was a conspiracy within the authorities and the media to hush up the fact this was an Islamic terrorist attack. I’m sure they have noble reasons (namely preventing outcry, retaliatory attacks, innocent Muslims being targeted - until the story was out of the news cycle and the outrage had calmed), but the fact remains this was a concerted effort to mislead the public on the truth of the matter.

Why are they using a picture of this terrorist as a schoolboy?

did the authorities knew at the time of arrest about the ricin and Al-Qaeda fetish? not what the reports are saying, discovered as part of investigations, so there was no hush-up just part of process, being whipped up by those that want to make a thing about it.

Just going to repost my post from the Tommy Robinson thread

"He had a pdf downloaded of training for terrorist attacks that was created by Al Quaeda, that doesn't mean he's part of Al Quaeda.

If he had a copy of the anarchists cookbook to make bombs, would that make him a Marxist? Or if he had an IRA bomb making instructional document would that make him an Irish Nationalist?

It could be that he had the document simply because it contained the information he needed, hence why the stabbing still isn't being treated as a terrorist attack, and the killer is being charged with possession of terrorist material."

There is zero evidence this was an Islamic terrorist attack, or that he had converted to Islam.

 

[Hastings gull]

Just going to repost my post from the Tommy Robinson thread

"He had a pdf downloaded of training for terrorist attacks that was created by Al Quaeda, that doesn't mean he's part of Al Quaeda.

If he had a copy of the anarchists cookbook to make bombs, would that make him a Marxist? Or if he had an IRA bomb making instructional document would that make him an Irish Nationalist?

It could be that he had the document simply because it contained the information he needed, hence why the stabbing still isn't being treated as a terrorist attack, and the killer is being charged with possession of terrorist material."

There is zero evidence this was an Islamic terrorist attack, or that he had converted to Islam.

How naive can you get. What was that saying -there is none so blind as those who don't want to see. .

 

[beorhthelm]

How naive can you get. What was that saying -there is none so blind as those who don't want to see. .

what actual material difference does it make if the attack was some islamic inspired terrorism or the actions of a madman?