[Albion] Penalty or not so much?

[m20gull]

Of course you’re allowed to go for it, but if you’re second to it and headbutt the player…?

The equivalent challenge with the feet would be both players going for the ball, Pedro getting there first, the ball touching Saliba after Pedro’s kicked it, and Saliba taking Pedro’s leg out. Which would also be a penalty.

... even if the ball glances off some part of Salina's body after the challenge

 

[keaton]

Can't even headbutt someone in the penalty area anymore.. Games gone

 

[Man of Harveys]

Absolute nonsense on MOTD. The fact that those dreary pillocks can’t even say that that’s a foul that would be given anywhere else on the pitch makes me want to write to…I dunno, Points of View or something, absolute big club bumlicking drivel. But there we are.

 

[jcdenton08]

Just on Arsenal generally, very surprised how negative they were. Time wasting in the first half from a corner is maybe understandable, if not exactly noble, if you’re Southampton a goal up at Anfield.

But from Arsenal’s perspective, being a goal up doing it at a mid table side who haven’t won in six-seven games is just a bit weird. They should’ve been doing the opposite, upping the tempo constantly, forcing mistakes and pushing the agenda while they were completely on top and getting that second and third goal.

Watching them indulge their “dark arts” felt like how it is sometimes with shithouse players, they put the shithousery ahead of actually focusing on playing football, dragging their team down with their stupid antics instead of just playing the game and getting a better outcome. Bruno Fernandes, Jordan Pickford, Maupay are all terrible for this.

Shithousing is meant to give an advantage to even up a situation against better sides, not just for the sake of it.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Absolute nonsense on MOTD. The fact that those dreary pillocks can’t even say that that’s a foul that would be given anywhere else on the pitch makes me want to write to…I dunno, Points of View or something, absolute big club bumlicking drivel. But there we are.

At least Jonathan Pearce called it right.

 

[Perfidious Albion]

It doesn’t really matter. The ref and VAR saw it as a foul, dangerous play, so it was given . End of story. Lats take one in our favour for once.

 

[tedebear]

Just on Arsenal generally, very surprised how negative they were. Time wasting in the first half from a corner is maybe understandable, if not exactly noble, if you’re Southampton a goal up at Anfield.

But from Arsenal’s perspective, being a goal up doing it at a mid table side who haven’t won in six-seven games is just a bit weird. They should’ve been doing the opposite, upping the tempo constantly, forcing mistakes and pushing the agenda while they were completely on top and getting that second and third goal.

Watching them indulge their “dark arts” felt like how it is sometimes with shithouse players, they put the shithousery ahead of actually focusing on playing football, dragging their team down with their stupid antics instead of just playing the game and getting a better outcome. Bruno Fernandes, Jordan Pickford, Maupay are all terrible for this.

Shithousing is meant to give an advantage to even up a situation against better sides, not just for the sake of it.

They can’t take the shithousery back though can they, Veltman was obviously at it at the JP penalty, which Arsenal player did a big backwards horse kick at him? its on the sky highlights but I couldn’t work out the arsenal player?

 

[Snowflake]

Jonathan Pearce got it spot when he said anywhere else on the field, it’s a foul and a free kick, therefore as it happened in the area it’s a pen.

In the same way Pervis got penalised for his challenge on Martinelli (I think it was)

 

[Uh_huh_him]

In the same way Pervis got penalised for his challenge on Martinelli (I think it was)

Rice

 

[7dialssouthpaw]

They can’t take the shithousery back though can they, Veltman was obviously at it at the JP penalty, which Arsenal player did a big backwards horse kick at him? its on the sky highlights but I couldn’t work out the arsenal player?

think it was Jorginho

 

[Hamilton]

Also the state of the media is terrible. When he is says he has never seen anything like it why don't they put to him several examples of similar incidents all given as penalties? Why do they allow him to push falsehoods?

That is the media all over. Happens in politics too.

 

[Hometownglory]

Who cares, with the consistency of refs in this country, you absolutely win some and lose some. Tbh, if Arteta is pissed off and Arsenal titles hopes are over, I couldn't give a monkeys.

 

[HeaviestTed]

He headbutted him, loss of control and dangerous play, simple, nailed on pen.

 

[Burlinggap]

I am more surprised that you see this as a “head but” and not a clash of heads. I think that the clash on Gordon was far more of a penalty shout.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

I am more surprised that you see this as a “head but” and not a clash of heads. I think that the clash on Gordon was far more of a penalty shout.

This.

How the Gordon one gets waved away and the Villa one against Pedro is given, is beyond me.

 

[Drebin]

Exactly …. If the Perv header was a foul then so was the pen incident.

Fans complain they want constancy from referees and they got it yesterday, just doesn’t suit the Arsenal fans agenda because it was against them.

This with bells on. It was simply consistent refereeing after the Pervis foul.

 

[huzzah]

MOTD say never a penalty. To which I say "time for a clearout BBC, let's get some brains on the show".

ESPN 3/4 say pen:

 

[Slum_Wolf]

ESPN 3/4 say pen:

Steve Nicol nails it...

 

[Weststander]

Absolute nonsense on MOTD. The fact that those dreary pillocks can’t even say that that’s a foul that would be given anywhere else on the pitch makes me want to write to…I dunno, Points of View or something, absolute big club bumlicking drivel. But there we are.

They live under the laws 30 years ago. Deemed careless, reckless or endangering an opponent are infringements. Irrespective of winning the ball or getting some of the ball first.

 

[Triggaaar]

I'm with Arteta in the sense that I've actually not seen this before - two players trying to head a ball, one being faster and the other heading his head and it all resulting in a penalty...

But it seems a penalty to me technically speaking. Our player was faster and more agile and got to the ball quicker and the defender - of course accidently since there's zero purpose - heads into theirs. If the ball is on the ground, the equivalent is both going for the ball and our boy being faster so they kick his leg instead of the ball.... penalty.

Technically speaking it is correct, bit like the one last week was probably technically correct.

But thats of course not to say we weren't lucky. Usually this is never given, however right or wrong it is. If the ref didn't blow, the VAR probably wouldn't even have been arsed checking it.

I basically agree with that. Technically correct like the one against Villa, but that one was overturned by VAR and probably shouldn't have been, just like yesterday's wouldn't have been given by VAR.