Thunder Bolt
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That would be double jeopardy which is only for deliberate handball in the area.
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[Albion] Penalty or not so much?
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American Seagle
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- Jun 14, 2022
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Well it is. Two heads clashed. Sometimes that's a foul, sometimes it isn't. Doesn't mean it isn't a clash of heads.
Double Jeopardy only applies to DOSG (denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity). Violent conduct is still a red card inside the area.
Don't think this was violent though, it didn't seem as there was any actual intent to headbutt Pedro.
Though as we know intent is not necessary, just being reckless and dangerous is enough.
Reckless- well he's never getting there before Pedro and no attempt it's made to pull out of the late challenge
Dangerous - I think nutting someone in the side of the head definitely counts.
Just looked it up, sorry it's serious foul play:
SERIOUS FOUL PLAY
A tackle or challenge that endangers the safety of an opponent or uses excessive force or brutality must be sanctioned as serious foul play.
Anyone arguing it was not a pen is actually arguing whether the rule is right. They just won’t admit that. https://www.skysports.com/football/...why-var-couldnt-intervene-on-brighton-penalty
Stumpy Tim
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For those saying it wasn’t a penalty because Saliba touched the ball, I assume they would also say the Sheffield United red card for the assault on Mitoma last season wasn’t a foul too, as his studs grazed the ball?
Clear penalty… I’m surprised it’s even being discussed in the media.
Clear penalty… I’m surprised it’s even being discussed in the media.
ROSM
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The only media challenging if it was a penalty were MOTD and ian wright on the epl broadcast channel. Even the latter was more challenging inconsistency than the decision. I know that Clinton Morrison also seems to be questioning it but as he couldn't define the offside law if it crept up and goosed him then we can discount him.
Alan shearer has told his Rest is football colleagues why he thought they were wrong on MOTD and they didn't exactly defend their corner back.
Uh_huh_him
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- Sep 28, 2011
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I still think it's a harsh decision, but falls in line with all of teh harsh decisions which are now routinely given as penalties
Micah and Lineker pretty much doubled down on their position.
Lineker claiming that Pedro's histrionics was why the pen was given.
The clash of heads, not intentional, the ball brushing Saliba's head, arguments all get dragged up again.
All 3 arguments have no relation to whether a foul should be awarded or not.
Absolute shocking analysis from the worst pundits in the game.
Just listened to it.
Micah and Lineker pretty much doubled down on their position.
Lineker claiming that Pedro's histrionics was why the pen was given.
The clash of heads, not intentional, the ball brushing Saliba's head, arguments all get dragged up again.
All 3 arguments have no relation to whether a foul should be awarded or not.
Absolute shocking analysis from the worst pundits in the game.
singing4seagulls
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Match Officials Mic'd Up: VAR took seven seconds to agree on Brighton's controversial penalty decision vs Arsenal
On Match Officials Micd Up, Howard Webb agrees with the decision to award Brighton a penalty in their 1-1 draw with Arsenal; VAR took just seven seconds to verify William Salibas foul on Joao Pedro; Webb says William Saliba touching the ball does not negate the penalty
This should put it the matter to bed for any non-Arsenal fans who still think it wasn’t a penalty.Match Officials Mic'd Up: VAR took seven seconds to agree on Brighton's controversial penalty decision vs Arsenal
On Match Officials Micd Up, Howard Webb agrees with the decision to award Brighton a penalty in their 1-1 draw with Arsenal; VAR took just seven seconds to verify William Salibas foul on Joao Pedro; Webb says William Saliba touching the ball does not negate the penaltywww.skysports.com
100% a penalty.
Not a 50/50. Heads clashed, but Saliba initiated it by not ‘playing the ball’ because Pedro headed the ball onto his head. He played Pedro’s head.
Just a shame Howard Webb didn’t reference the foul committed by Pervis earlier in the match that was essentially the same.
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Uh_huh_him
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Typically occurs when both players are in the air too.
This was not an aerial clash of heads
oldboyroy
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Being discussed again on TS with Danny Murphy still saying never a pen while Jim and Simon saying it was
The Sage from The Times says no pen. But as he's regularly wrong about most things, I think we can discount his opinion.
www.thetimes.com
Three decisions that show modern football has lost all common sense
From Joelinton’s ‘handball’ to William Saliba conceding a penalty in a clash of heads and Kobbie Mainoo’s stealth raid against Liverpool, logic has been removed from officiating
www.thetimes.com