Occupy demo in London.

[BadFish]

And out of those 950 cities how many of them have managed to shut down a major tourist attraction?

Can someone please explain to me what these people are actually trying to achieve?

It is a protest to raise awareness (like most protests).

What are they protesting about?

Here is a link to their website

http://occupylsx.org/?page_id=172

 

[BadFish]

The most amusing thing is when you see people protesting agaisnt the evil global corporations while on their iphones, drinking their starbucks coffees in their nike trainers.

And out comes the old argument.

It always surprises me, given how difficult it is to buy most things without involving evil global corporations, how few of these things are seen on protests.

 

[bhaexpress]

Here's the thing, the protesters can stay as long as they like, I hope they can manage to survive without being able to sign on. They're not obstructing me on my way to work. They're not bothering me at all really.

That's the problem, nobody cares.

 

[m20gull]

It is a protest to raise awareness (like most protests).

What are they protesting about?

Here is a link to their website

http://occupylsx.org/?page_id=172

So what are they trying to achieve, rather than protesting against?

 

[bhaexpress]

So what are they trying to achieve, rather than protesting against?

They are undoubtedly exercising their democratic rights. No problem with that but to be honest it's a fairly futile exercise but they are entitled to do it.

 

[looney]

They are undoubtedly exercising their democratic rights. No problem with that but to be honest it's a fairly futile exercise but they are entitled to do it.

No they claim they are democracy in action, the 99%, thats a big differecne. Also laughable in my opinion.

 

[bhaexpress]

No they claim they are democracy in action, the 99%, thats a big differecne. Also laughable in my opinion.

It is democracy in action, I wouldn't mock people for protesting peacefully but I do pity them if they genuinely believe that their actions will make any difference.

 

[BadFish]

So what are they trying to achieve, rather than protesting against?

They are trying to raise awareness.

 

[BadFish]

It is democracy in action, I wouldn't mock people for protesting peacefully but I do pity them if they genuinely believe that their actions will make any difference.

Genuine question: Do you think there is a problem with the economical and political system we currently live under?

 

[looney]

It is democracy in action, I wouldn't mock people for protesting peacefully but I do pity them if they genuinely believe that their actions will make any difference.

No it isn't, Democracy is when you decide who govens you via ballot box. I do not want these tossers deciding things for me. A few 100 protesters verses 70 million who dont. Thats some weird Democratic system.

Ever heard of the silent majority?

They are exercising rights given to them by Government acting on behalf of the people who elect them, all of us. This does not mean they represent all of us any more than the EDL do.

 

[bhaexpress]

Genuine question: Do you think there is a problem with the economical and political system we currently live under?

I think you can find flaws with any system, I don't see eye to eye with much of the current administration's policies but I could say the same about the previous administration. I do however prefer our system to just about every other one I've seen. I find the attitude of extreme left wingers as ridiculous as that of extreme right wingers, a lot of questions but no answers that make any sense.

 

[bhaexpress]

No it isn't, Democracy is when you decide who govens you via ballot box. I do not want these tossers deciding things for me. A few 100 protesters verses 70 million who dont. Thats some weird Democratic system.

Ever heard of the silent majority?

They are exercising rights given to them by Government acting on behalf of the people who elect them, all of us. This does not mean they represent all of us any more than the EDL do.

I don't see any point in their actions but in our demcratic society they have every right to voice an opinion in the manner in whch they are doing. Nobody says they represent anybody other than themselves. However, The current Tory Government wasn't elected by me either. The fact that they are in power doesn't mean that I have no right to disagree with them and say so as long as I do so lawfully.

These 'tossers' are not deciding anything for you, they are merely expressing their opinions in a perfectly legal manner. I'd also question just who is a member of your so called 'slent majority'. You ? Believe me there's precious little that you and I would agree on. You have your right to an opinion as do I. So do these protesters. Remember they are acting withing the law, that's democracy.

 

[BadFish]

I think you can find flaws with any system, I don't see eye to eye with much of the current administration's policies but I could say the same about the previous administration. I do however prefer our system to just about every other one I've seen. I find the attitude of extreme left wingers as ridiculous as that of extreme right wingers, a lot of questions but no answers that make any sense.

I think these protests go deeper than party politics. The protests are about the manipulation of governments (of any persusion) by lobby groups and multinationals. They are about the fact that governments do not represent the people they are supposed. The fact that the world is run by a system that allows so many to live in poverty while a few own such a large percentage of the worlds wealth.

 

[BadFish]

double post

 

[looney]

I don't see any point in their actions but in our demcratic society they have every right to voice an opinion in the manner in whch they are doing. Nobody says they represent anybody other than themselves. However, The current Tory Government wasn't elected by me either. The fact that they are in power doesn't mean that I have no right to disagree with them and say so as long as I do so lawfully.

These 'tossers' are not deciding anything for you, they are merely expressing their opinions in a perfectly legal manner. I'd also question just who is a member of your so called 'slent majority'. You ? Believe me there's precious little that you and I would agree on. You have your right to an opinion as do I. So do these protesters. Remember they are acting withing the law, that's democracy.

I agree generally with your post, the point your missing or I haven't explained well is that they claim to represent me,and you, which in my case at least they do not. I'm to noisy to be in a silent majority but the term applies to every protest.

 

[BadFish]

I don't see any point in their actions but in our demcratic society they have every right to voice an opinion in the manner in whch they are doing. Nobody says they represent anybody other than themselves. However, The current Tory Government wasn't elected by me either. The fact that they are in power doesn't mean that I have no right to disagree with them and say so as long as I do so lawfully.

These 'tossers' are not deciding anything for you, they are merely expressing their opinions in a perfectly legal manner. I'd also question just who is a member of your so called 'slent majority'. You ? Believe me there's precious little that you and I would agree on. You have your right to an opinion as do I. So do these protesters. Remember they are acting withing the law, that's democracy.

True enough. Good post

 

[bhaexpress]

I agree generally with your post, the point your missing or I haven't explained well is that they claim to represent me,and you, which in my case at least they do not. I'm to noisy to be in a silent majority but the term applies to every protest.

Well, I apologise, to be honest I take so little interest in what they say that I wasn't aware that the claim to represent anybody other than themselves, that is a very serious falsehood. What does get to me is that I have little doubt that many of them are claiming benefits, how do they manage to look for work as they are legally abilged to ?

 

[brunswick]

Remember they are acting withing the law, that's democracy.

they are not allowed near the city.
they are being moved on from st pauls.
they are being kettled and contained.
they are being tarnished by the MSM.
they are being mis labelled by the MSM.
they have been lied to by banks and politicions.
the pm in the uk can only get in with millions of corporate funding for a campaign.
they pay over the top for things so mega corps make more money.
they pay for bail outs so the banks can take more money and give more bonuses.

that, is fascism and dictatorship, not democracy.

 

[BadFish]

I agree generally with your post, the point your missing or I haven't explained well is that they claim to represent me,and you, which in my case at least they do not. I'm to noisy to be in a silent majority but the term applies to every protest.

Whether you want them to or not they are representing something which includes you. It is something that they (and I) feel is important to the continuation of us all. Whether you agree with them that there is a problem is a different matter.

Out of interest do you think the current economic and political system is okay and not in need of some changes?

 

[m20gull]

they are not allowed near the city.
they are being moved on from st pauls.
they are being kettled and contained.
they are being tarnished by the MSM.
they are being mis labelled by the MSM.
they have been lied to by banks and politicions.
the pm in the uk can only get in with millions of corporate funding for a campaign.
they pay over the top for things so mega corps make more money.
they pay for bail outs so the banks can take more money and give more bonuses.

that, is fascism and dictatorship, not democracy.

No it is not. If the majority believe that legal businesses should be able to go about their legal business unimpeded and appoint leaders to employ people to ensure that happens, that is democracy.
When small numbers of people impose their view on other people and stop them acting in a free legal way, that's dictatorship.