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armchairclubber
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Come on @aolstudios you're normally so responsive.
Even if its just one of you're pathetic laughing emojis.
I too am intrigued to know your stance? Don't worry you won't be alone whatever your thoughts. Starmer boy is all for white phosphorous.
@aolstudios seems determined on death and destruction and won't explain why.
armchairclubber
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armchairclubber
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aolstudios
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Would you react like this to someone from any other minority's experience of racism?
I guess Jews don't count
armchairclubber
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My sincere apologies if I have offended you or anyone who were Jewish. I have no idea if you are Jewish.
Your reply to my Alexis Sayle, who is Jewish, Christmas message calling for a ceasefire was "surely there was something more moderate in Der Stürmer" which itself is offensive. You then posted Steven Frys "Zionist" message.
I thought it worth bringing to your attention that Frys message may not be seen as moderate itself by many, including Jewish people.
Now that your back, perhaps you can reveal your position moving forward?
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I think you may need to accept @aolstudios , the real issue here is that you may have a different interpretation of ‘anti-semitism’ than some people. I’m not saying your interpretation is wrong but I think it is an interpretation that maybe sees any criticism of Israel or maybe even just the Government of Israel as being anti-Semitic since Israel is seen within a narrow definition of being a Jewish State in that interpretation of anti-semitism.. Whereas others may see that it is a legitimate line of thought to hold any Government or Country to account, including Israel - as long as the criticisms aren’t seen as racial slurs/stereotypical tropes against Jews as a people nor anti-religious prejudice of Judaistic beliefs.
Is it inherently antisemitic to criticise Israel? It may depend on who you ask | Antisemitism | The Guardian
Some caution that the definition of antisemitism adopted by Australia’s government has gaps that could stifle legitimate discussion of Israeli policy
amp.theguardian.com
aolstudios
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Nope. Not at all. I'm good with IHRAI think you may need to accept @aolstudios , the real issue here is that you may have a different interpretation of ‘anti-semitism’ than some people. I’m not saying your interpretation is wrong but I think it is an interpretation that maybe sees any criticism of Israel or maybe even just the Government of Israel as being anti-Semitic since Israel is seen within a narrow definition of being a Jewish State in that interpretation of anti-semitism.. Whereas others may see that it is a legitimate line of thought to hold any Government or Country to account, including Israel - as long as the criticisms aren’t seen as racial slurs/stereotypical tropes against Jews as a people nor anti-religious prejudice of Judaistic beliefs.
Is it inherently antisemitic to criticise Israel? It may depend on who you ask | Antisemitism | The Guardian
Some caution that the definition of antisemitism adopted by Australia’s government has gaps that could stifle legitimate discussion of Israeli policy
After ignoring my question, I genuinely believe that @aolstudios' answer would be no.
Therefore suggesting that they seem determined on death and destruction.
[However, this is only an assumption]
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armchairclubber
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How does your slur against Alexis Sayles Christmas message for peace and a ceasefire in Gaza "surely there was something more moderate in Der Stürmer" fit in with IHRA?
aolstudios
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Absolutely fine. I'm allowed to criticise a Jew. As are you.
(there are even Antisemitic Jews, as there are Mexicans & blacks for Trump & proud boys)
Israel admits airstrike that killed 86 people at Gaza refugee camp was 'regrettable mistake'
The strike on the Maghazi camp in central Gaza on Christmas Eve was one of the bloodiest of the conflict so far. Many of the dead included women and children.
Easy mistake to make, who amongst us hasn’t set out to bomb a refugee camp and ended up using the wrong sort of munitions when doing it?
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When it comes to bombs, there’s ‘dumb’ and dumber, the latter referring those that use themIsrael admits airstrike that killed 86 people at Gaza refugee camp was 'regrettable mistake'
The strike on the Maghazi camp in central Gaza on Christmas Eve was one of the bloodiest of the conflict so far. Many of the dead included women and children.news.sky.com
Easy mistake to make, who amongst us hasn’t set out to bomb a refugee camp and ended up using the wrong sort of munitions when doing it?
After reading this article I can kind of understand why some Israeli soldiers might be prone to being trigger happy during the current IDF invasion of Gazza
aolstudios
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Excerpts for any who can't get past paywall...
aolstudios
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From the NYT? A rabidly anti Israel paper. 'Undeniable & multiple verified'.
This is getting ridiculous. You give the impression you don't want any of this to be true
I think I've already posted on this thread that I totally understand the Israeli desire for revenge.
However, we that desire can't be allowed to run riot. The citizens of Gaza cannot be collectively held responsible for the crimes of Hamas.
If someone in your family was raped and murdered you'd be keen for revenge too. But I doubt you'd bomb the shit out of a neighbouring town, massacring women and children, in your quest to find the attacker.
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Who has been raped?
It was a hypothetical.