[Albion] Injuries 2024/25

[mrjon1976]

Ferguson injured for some weeks more per update on club website

wouldn't surprise me if he became fit and available 1 second after the transfer window shuts....

 

[Flounce]

wouldn't surprise me if he became fit and available 1 second after the transfer window shuts....

Or the Saturday after he’s loaned out

 

[tstanbur]

If, as suggested, Fabian is over working the players fitness in training I see little sign of it working on the pitch. Our players often seemed tuckered by about 60 minutes .

However, to counter my own opinion we have scored 11 goals after the eighty minutes mark in 23 games - is that good or par for the course ?

Always assumed that is the plan - starters put it in for first hour or so then we put on like-for-like subs to do the same.

 

[chickens]

We’ve had these injuries over several seasons and under different head coaches. This suggests to me that we’re not over-coaching.

Similarly, without inside knowledge of what’s going on at the training ground, we don’t know if pitches have been relaid or replaced with artificial pitches etc. Unless they have, we can probably discount the training environment.

Is it a blind spot in our data approach? is the reason we’re able to get these players that others are discounting them partly on them being potentially injury prone?

Is it just bad luck? It seems to be ongoing and happening consistently, you’d think the club would be looking closely at how this keeps happening.

If these injuries were all occurring e.g. during a particular drill, you’d hope that would be being picked up on and the drill replaced with something less destructive. Similarly if they were all occurring at the end of training sessions, you’d think that we’d switch to shorter, more intense, training sessions.

I’d just like to know that somebody at the club is investigating how/why this keeps happening, and is looking for a solution.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Always assumed that is the plan - starters put it in for first hour or so then we put on like-for-like subs to do the same.

That's exactly what I thought it would be at the start of the season. A fairly like for like, two front 4's, with everyone getting loads of game time. It's a really exciting idea.

But it's not really worked out like that. Subs have, mostly (but not always) been much later than I would have expected. Injuries all over the pitch have hampered presumably pre made plans and players subbed in have often failed to impact, with one or 2 notably out of form

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

We’ve had these injuries over several seasons and under different head coaches. This suggests to me that we’re not over-coaching.

Similarly, without inside knowledge of what’s going on at the training ground, we don’t know if pitches have been relaid or replaced with artificial pitches etc. Unless they have, we can probably discount the training environment.

Is it a blind spot in our data approach? is the reason we’re able to get these players that others are discounting them partly on them being potentially injury prone?

Is it just bad luck? It seems to be ongoing and happening consistently, you’d think the club would be looking closely at how this keeps happening.

If these injuries were all occurring e.g. during a particular drill, you’d hope that would be being picked up on and the drill replaced with something less destructive. Similarly if they were all occurring at the end of training sessions, you’d think that we’d switch to shorter, more intense, training sessions.

I’d just like to know that somebody at the club is investigating how/why this keeps happening, and is looking for a solution.

I think the same as you. From the outside, none of the explanations on their own make any sense. I hope the club aren't just putting this down to luck. Given the scale of the issue, i'd like the think there is a full scale review in progress.

 

[chaileyjem]

For those speculating and searching for reasons - Why do Brentford, Wolves, Spurs and Newcastle have similar or worse injury patterns to us - at least in terms of number of current players out. (9 or 10)

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

he was due on the bench on sat and then had a bust up so was removed.

So you're saying that he's not injured and was dropped?

 

[chaileyjem]

The pitches there are Cat A, state of the art.

It surely can't be that.

There are also loads of teams who play an intense pressing style and play more games than we do and barely get an injury

there aren't any teams that "barely get an injury" and many if not most get multiple injuiries and several teams this year who have had just as bad a injury list (Brentford, Wolves, Spurs etc) .

 

[chaileyjem]

I think the same as you. From the outside, none of the explanations on their own make any sense.

what explanations ? Dunk having a recurrence of a calf injury he had a few weeks ago ? Pedro having a twisted ankle ? Igor having to have (like Welbeck in past seasons) an op on his hamstring, Ferdi having a toe operation ? Why do they not make sense ?

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

what explanations ? Dunk having a recurrence of a calf injury he had a few weeks ago ? Pedro having a twisted ankle ? Igor having to have (like Welbeck in past seasons) an op on his hamstring, Ferdi having a toe operation ? Why do they not make sense ?

The numbers. The numbers don't make sense. Sure in your approach if you look at each instance in isolation then each makes sense. But there's a number of injuries over more than a season here and that's what I think the club should be looking at. I would be amazed if they were just sitting back and concluding straight away it's just bad luck

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

there aren't any teams that "barely get an injury" and many if not most get multiple injuiries and several teams this year who have had just as bad a injury list (Brentford, Wolves, Spurs etc) .

And I really don't care about f***ing Brentford. We've got to look after what we're doing, as do they.

The number and length of injuries we've been getting is way worse than most pl clubs and way worse than it's been at any time in recent or not so recent years.

It's not illegitimate to be asking these questions