I made a cyclist fall off his bike his morning

[fire&skill]

Cyclists have BO and are always a bit grubby, even after showering. Fact.

 

[Skint Gull]

Aaarrgghh! Freedom of choice! If I want to look like a dayglo geek I am perfectly capable of doint it all by myself. What I don't need is a police officer telling me that I SHOULD be wearing saddo kit when they should be spending more time on crime reduction.

Please tell me that is tongue in cheek? I presume you do not or have never driven a car. If you had and were any sort of decent driver you would have noticed how amazingly dangerous people who ride without lights at night are. If you are driving along the way you see other cars is their lights. On most streets twats without lights will not been seen until you are about 30 yards away and if you're driving along that 30 yards will not take long! Here's hoping you don't have to learn the hard way

 

[blue'n'white]

No they aren't!

I've never seen a car driving on the path! I very rarely see a car jump red lights! All car drivers have had to a) pass a test b) use a road worth car c) pay road tax d) have insurance.

Cyclist should be banned from the roads until they have proved they are worthy of driving on the queens highway. They should have to pass a test, have insurance, pay road tax and have a road worthy bike that is tested on an annual basis.

f*** the environment my health is far more important, bhaexpress I salute you!

I agree 100%

 

[clapham_gull]

I've no idea what it's like in Brighton, but I've posted before (on many many occasions) it has become a major problem in London.

We're not talking about the odd cyclist nipping through a light when there are no pedestrians around.

We're talking Pedestrians unable to cross the road because of the selfishness of cylists.

It's an everyday experience for me, I watched four or five cyclists do it this morning and another couple tonight.

Fortunately the police are cracking down.

Over the road they parked themselves up in a garage forecourt and pulled the cyclists off the road as they went through the lights 50 yards up.

So many were doing it, they were unable to deal with them all.

I have noticed an approvement recently although it's miles away from being perfect. I put this simply down to the fact that cyclists have realised they are in danger of getting nicked.

Pedestrians are more commonly starting to argue back.

 

[Gwylan]

I've never seen a car driving on the path! I very rarely see a car jump red lights! All car drivers have had to a) pass a test b) use a road worth car c) pay road tax d) have insurance.

You must lead a very sheltered life. In the real world, you'll see cars jump red lights every day. The junction of Coombe Road and Lewes Road is particularly bad for this - there's no camera and for some reason, there are long periods where both sets of lights are red. Drivers know this and cars regularly drive through red lights here (although I did once see a car do this while a cop car was waiting at the lights - not the best idea). I've also been knocked off my bike twice by drivers who decided to ignore red lights.

As for driving on the pavement. I was on a coach from Brighton to London yesterday and in Mitcham I saw three cars in a row take a short cut in a queue of traffic by driving on the pavement. It's a more unusual occurrence but you do see cars on the path reasonably regularly.

I think, in Brighton, cyclists are pretty good. There are some who beat lights but there are plenty of drivers who do. There are some who ride on pavements, particularly on London Rd for some reason and I, gather, there are some who ride the wrong way down St James's Street, but it's not too bad The worse problem in Brighton are the number of pedestrians who walk in cycle lanes.

As Clapham Gull says, it's far worse in London where are a lot of cyclists are a law unto themselves. Speaking as a cyclist, I think they're a pain in the neck as they give all of us a bad name. I'd really like to see the police clamp down hard on cyclists riding through red lights - it would be better for all of us.

 

[bhaexpress]

I'm suprised I am the only one whos picked up on BHAactress's criminal behaviour.

In the US its Jaywalking and I'm sure there will be a UK equivellant.

what if the cyclist went ove the handlebars and broke his neck? Possible.

What if CCTV had clocked numpty looking at the cyclist and showing intent?Probable.


But then again I'm not suprised you didn't notice thicko.

Well as the cyclist was 100% in the wrong why would I worry ? Not like t get you facts wrong is it ? No, wait though, maybe you're scouting for controversy ....

 

[bhaexpress]

I've no idea what it's like in Brighton, but I've posted before (on many many occasions) it has become a major problem in London.

We're not talking about the odd cyclist nipping through a light when there are no pedestrians around.

We're talking Pedestrians unable to cross the road because of the selfishness of cylists.

It's an everyday experience for me, I watched four or five cyclists do it this morning and another couple tonight.

Fortunately the police are cracking down.

Over the road they parked themselves up in a garage forecourt and pulled the cyclists off the road as they went through the lights 50 yards up.

So many were doing it, they were unable to deal with them all.

I have noticed an approvement recently although it's miles away from being perfect. I put this simply down to the fact that cyclists have realised they are in danger of getting nicked.

Pedestrians are more commonly starting to argue back.

I think that's a bit harsh on cyclists in general. However people who know Central London tend to find Cycle Messengers as against 'ordinary cyclists' the real culprits. I and I'm sure most others understand that they need to get around quickly but we pedestrians also need to get places by crossing the road.

 

[bhaexpress]

You must lead a very sheltered life. In the real world, you'll see cars jump red lights every day. The junction of Coombe Road and Lewes Road is particularly bad for this - there's no camera and for some reason, there are long periods where both sets of lights are red. Drivers know this and cars regularly drive through red lights here (although I did once see a car do this while a cop car was waiting at the lights - not the best idea). I've also been knocked off my bike twice by drivers who decided to ignore red lights.

As for driving on the pavement. I was on a coach from Brighton to London yesterday and in Mitcham I saw three cars in a row take a short cut in a queue of traffic by driving on the pavement. It's a more unusual occurrence but you do see cars on the path reasonably regularly.

I think, in Brighton, cyclists are pretty good. There are some who beat lights but there are plenty of drivers who do. There are some who ride on pavements, particularly on London Rd for some reason and I, gather, there are some who ride the wrong way down St James's Street, but it's not too bad The worse problem in Brighton are the number of pedestrians who walk in cycle lanes.

As Clapham Gull says, it's far worse in London where are a lot of cyclists are a law unto themselves. Speaking as a cyclist, I think they're a pain in the neck as they give all of us a bad name. I'd really like to see the police clamp down hard on cyclists riding through red lights - it would be better for all of us.

You can't really compare traffic in London to Brighton though. Do they have many cycle messengers in Brighton ? I have no issues with cyclists in Croydon or Bromley for instance as I would think that they have similar volumes of traffic to Brighton.

 

[Gwylan]

You can't really compare traffic in London to Brighton though. Do they have many cycle messengers in Brighton ? I have no issues with cyclists in Croydon or Bromley for instance as I would think that they have similar volumes of traffic to Brighton.

Quite right - and I didn't take into account the effect of cycle messengers who are probably responsible for most of the cycling breaches of the Highway Code in London.

But I was also talking about the way that people were referring to "cyclists" in general when, on the whole, they're mainly law-abiding outside of London. I think that the volume of traffic and he general pace of life has meant that cyclists in London are generally worse behaved but, on the whole, we're a pretty law-abiding bunch.

 

[bhaexpress]

Quite right - and I didn't take into account the effect of cycle messengers who are probably responsible for most of the cycling breaches of the Highway Code in London.

But I was also talking about the way that people were referring to "cyclists" in general when, on the whole, they're mainly law-abiding outside of London. I think that the volume of traffic and he general pace of life has meant that cyclists in London are generally worse behaved but, on the whole, we're a pretty law-abiding bunch.

No arguments there from me, I also cycle but not in Central London as frankly it's too damn dangerous, I put 95% of my dislike of cyclists down to the small minority who are messengers.

 

[Arthur]

You must lead a very sheltered life. In the real world, you'll see cars jump red lights every day. The junction of Coombe Road and Lewes Road is particularly bad for this - there's no camera and for some reason, there are long periods where both sets of lights are red. Drivers know this and cars regularly drive through red lights here (although I did once see a car do this while a cop car was waiting at the lights - not the best idea). I've also been knocked off my bike twice by drivers who decided to ignore red lights.

As for driving on the pavement. I was on a coach from Brighton to London yesterday and in Mitcham I saw three cars in a row take a short cut in a queue of traffic by driving on the pavement. It's a more unusual occurrence but you do see cars on the path reasonably regularly.

I think, in Brighton, cyclists are pretty good. There are some who beat lights but there are plenty of drivers who do. There are some who ride on pavements, particularly on London Rd for some reason and I, gather, there are some who ride the wrong way down St James's Street, but it's not too bad The worse problem in Brighton are the number of pedestrians who walk in cycle lanes.

As Clapham Gull says, it's far worse in London where are a lot of cyclists are a law unto themselves. Speaking as a cyclist, I think they're a pain in the neck as they give all of us a bad name. I'd really like to see the police clamp down hard on cyclists riding through red lights - it would be better for all of us.

Bloody hell is this thread still rumbling on?

Yes I lead a very sheltered life that sees me commuting to London every day and seeing first hand how cyclists behave on the road.

It's getting better as the pointless coppers (PCSOs) have been cracking down on it but even yesterday at lunch time a courier nearly knocked me over by jumping the lights at the junction of King William Street and Cannon Street/Gracechurch Street/Eastcheap so not only did he nearly kill me, he nearly killed himself.

Perhaps it's just a London thing and cyclists in Brighton are all well behaved? I don't know, I don't spend enough time in Brighton to comment. However in London at least 50% of them don't obey the highway code. Don't believe me? Go and stand on the Millennium (wobbly) Bridge, clearly a big sign at either end saying cyclists dismount. Go and stand at Holborn Viaduct and see how many jump the lights, go and stand at Holborn Tube Station junction, go and stand at Blackfriars Bridge, go and stand on Theobalds Road, I could go on and on.

 

[wellquickwoody]

Please tell me that is tongue in cheek? I presume you do not or have never driven a car. If you had and were any sort of decent driver you would have noticed how amazingly dangerous people who ride without lights at night are. If you are driving along the way you see other cars is their lights. On most streets twats without lights will not been seen until you are about 30 yards away and if you're driving along that 30 yards will not take long! Here's hoping you don't have to learn the hard way

I was commenting on reflective gear, not lights. Sorry for any confusion.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Aaarrgghh! Freedom of choice! If I want to look like a dayglo geek I am perfectly capable of doint it all by myself. What I don't need is a police officer telling me that I SHOULD be wearing saddo kit when they should be spending more time on crime reduction.

I think your drive to improve the Gene pool should be highly recommended. It must have been one of your associates at 7.00 last night riding up Dyke Road Avenue in the pouring rain, dressed all in black with no lights, as i tried to pull out

 

[Gwylan]

Yes I lead a very sheltered life that sees me commuting to London every day and seeing first hand how cyclists behave on the road.

It's getting better as the pointless coppers (PCSOs) have been cracking down on it but even yesterday at lunch time a courier nearly knocked me over by jumping the lights at the junction of King William Street and Cannon Street/Gracechurch Street/Eastcheap so not only did he nearly kill me, he nearly killed himself.

Perhaps it's just a London thing and cyclists in Brighton are all well behaved? I don't know, I don't spend enough time in Brighton to comment. However in London at least 50% of them don't obey the highway code. Don't believe me? Go and stand on the Millennium (wobbly) Bridge, clearly a big sign at either end saying cyclists dismount. Go and stand at Holborn Viaduct and see how many jump the lights, go and stand at Holborn Tube Station junction, go and stand at Blackfriars Bridge, go and stand on Theobalds Road, I could go on and on.

Oh, I believe you about London cyclists, I lived in London for 22 years so I know what they're like - I think more than 50% of cyclists are law-abiding though. It's not that bad.

It's the bit about motorists all being paragons of virtue and not breaking the law that I found hard to swallow.

 

[clapham_gull]

I think that's a bit harsh on cyclists in general. However people who know Central London tend to find Cycle Messengers as against 'ordinary cyclists' the real culprits. I and I'm sure most others understand that they need to get around quickly but we pedestrians also need to get places by crossing the road.

I'd like to think it's harsh bad it isn't. I watched the situation get progressively worse over the last 15 years.

It isn't the odd one, on some junctions it's habitual behaivour.

As I said the Police were unable to deal with the number of offenders.

 

[Cullip4]

In the last week I have nearly been hit by a cyclist going over a red light in the Old Steine, a PCSO on a bike cycling through the Pavillion Gardens and some twat coming down St James Street at high speed who proceeded to try and lecture me about looking where I was going

 

[wellquickwoody]

I am no fan of cyclists but I defend their right not to wear fluro yelo garb.

 

[Questions]

Cyclists are all a little bit weird aren`t they ? Yeah some jump the odd red light but its the fact that without exception they are always a bit geeky that gets me. Most have lank greasy hair and wear quite ridiculous attires when out in public. Anyone older than 18 who travels by bike needs to be watched closely.

 

[bhaexpress]

Cyclists are all a little bit weird aren`t they ? Yeah some jump the odd red light but its the fact that without exception they are always a bit geeky that gets me. Most have lank greasy hair and wear quite ridiculous attires when out in public. Anyone older than 18 who travels by bike needs to be watched closely.

Some cyclists it's how they make their living. Unfortunately, they tend to be the ones most people complain about.

 

[looney]

Well as the cyclist was 100% in the wrong why would I worry ? Not like t get you facts wrong is it ? No, wait though, maybe you're scouting for controversy ....

Two wrongs make a right now?