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Uncle Spielberg

Well-known member
Jul 6, 2003
43,098
Lancing
At the age of 41 I have never voted Conservative but I am 90% certain to do so next year.

Yes Howard is a smug git but he talks a hell of a lot of sense and is far more in touch with my views and feelings than Tony Blair.

I can honestly say that Blair and Labour have been the most dissapointing government in my lifetime. What hopes we all had in May 1997 when Blair walked down Downing street with hundreds of flag waving fans after 18 years of Tory rule.

Can someone name me 1 just 1 thing the Labour government have done in 7 years to improve our lives. Education, Health, Law and Order, Immigration, Foreign policy, Transport, Europe are all and I mean all shot to pieces.

What a waste of 2 massive mandates.

Howard may have his faults but he is wiping the floor with Blair in the commons at the moment, its Tyson V Bruno all over again. Blair may hand the reigns to Mr " Even more Smug than Howard " Brown but thats even worse.

I will not vote LD again as they just seem to go for the easy option every time.

Conservatives it is then unless someone can convince me otherwise.

( Sorry Dad ).
 




On the Left Wing

KIT NAPIER
Oct 9, 2003
7,094
Wolverhampton
Don't do it!!!!!

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Gary Nelson

New member
Jul 25, 2003
1,378
Hove
Well that does it, Labour then. Anything motioned by Gareth Glover must be ignored and the exact opposite carried out.
See every tip offered since 2003
 


Uncle Spielberg

Well-known member
Jul 6, 2003
43,098
Lancing
Sensible arguments , well done lads !. :dunce:
 






bobbyzee

New member
Feb 17, 2004
647
Division 1
why dont you vote green?
or monster raving looney? ( are they still going?)
or stand as a candidate yerself....
 




CAFC Matt

New member
Jul 27, 2003
5,465
Woodindean
I will be voting for the first time at the next elections and I ain't got a f***ing clue who to give it to. Anyone???
 






crasher

New member
Jul 8, 2003
2,764
Sussex
Have you tried remembering the last Tory government?

Which pissed £25 billion of our money up the wall in a doomed attempt to stay in the ERM.

Which deliberately engineered a head-on conflict with the miners that left vast swathes of the North/Midlands devastated (some to this day).

That had unemployment of 3 million.

All this while impregnating their secretaries as they lectured the rest of us on morality or sold illegal weapons to mad third-world dictators.

I could go on but you get the picture. Yes Labour have disappointed (and I won't vote for them either) but never forget what Conservative Britain was like. And no they haven't changed. Howard was at the smug, corrupt, rotten heart of it all last time so why should it be any different next time?

Rant over.
 


Uncle Spielberg

Well-known member
Jul 6, 2003
43,098
Lancing
Labour inherited the best economic conditions of any party ever. Tories would have done as much and more with the conditions Labour have worked in.
 




Dandyman

In London village.
. "No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep-burning hatred of the Tory party. So far as I am concerned, they are lower than vermin."

- Nye Bevan ( the best PM this country never had).
 




ziggy

New member
Sep 19, 2003
191
Hastings
Anyone who won't take us to war will do for me!!!
BLAIR OUT!
 




Faldo

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
1,647
Cant be arsed to vote they are all as bad as each other. I'd rather have the country destroyed by someone I didnt chose than feel that in some small way i may have had something to do with it....

(still looking for that tongue-in-cheek smilie)
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,955
Surrey
Gareth Glover said:
Can someone name me 1 just 1 thing the Labour government have done in 7 years to improve our lives. Education, Health, Law and Order, Immigration, Foreign policy, Transport, Europe are all and I mean all shot to pieces.

I will not vote LD again as they just seem to go for the easy option every time.

Can't agree with alot of what you say. They HAVE put money into education and health but to be honest, you're not going to see the benefits overnight. All I can say on the matter is that our local hospital is having a massive new paediatric unit being built, I know of two schools going up and parents of all classes and income are clamerouring to get their kids into these schools. And that includes most of the households 150 yards from my front door that go for in excess of £900k.

As for the lib dems, they have been against the war and have promised to put up income tax, believing its the fairest way to tax and if we want better public services then they need to be paid for.

I don't like this Labour lot because:
1) Murdoch appears to have Bliar in his pocket
2) So does George Dubya
3) Bliar is a war criminal
4) They don't appear to listen to the experts before implementing potential policy changes or acting on enquiry findings.
5) Too much stealth tax. I'd rather we had high income tax, low VAT and fewer of the stupid duties.
 


On the Left Wing

KIT NAPIER
Oct 9, 2003
7,094
Wolverhampton
I come from a middle class Sussex background and at the age of 27 I had voted and worked for the Conservative Party all my life - helped Thatcher get elected twice in 79 and 83. I spent four years at Uni fighting the Trots and the Communists and was even elected as an FCS rep to the National Students Union.

Then came the miners strike - I lived in Barnsley at the time and saw at first hand how Thatcher and her minions crippled the lives of individuals and whole communities (the dirty tricks orchestrated by Thatcher, the secret service ane the police will always stay etched in my memory.
Three years later in 1987 I spent four months in a cancer ward in South Wales with many former miners whose stories and friendship changed my entire outlook on life ... and my politics changed forever.
My experiences since - first as an investigative reporter and then as a citizen of this country - convinced me that the Conservative Party are the poison that has ruined this country since 1979. Even Tony Blair is a Tory in different clothes.

Sure Michael Howard has something of the night about him - little of the truth about his relationship with Tiny Rowland has ever come out. And we must never forget Aitken, Hamilton, Archer and Yeo .... and the gun runners that were Denis and Mark Thatcher.

I am afraid to admit it but the only electable left wing party is the Liberal Democrats .... though give me the SNP if I still lived in Scotland .....

sad sad times
 


Sorrel

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
2,942
Back in East Sussex
You shouldn't worry about voting for a particular party (unless they are racist or something similar).

I've voted Labour, Liberal, Tory, Green so far, all depending on the candidate, and how I feel at the time. If you think that you prefer the Conservatives, then vote for them. Otherwise you're just lying to yourself, which is a bit pointless.
 




crasher

New member
Jul 8, 2003
2,764
Sussex
Gareth Glover said:
Labour inherited the best economic conditions of any party ever. Tories would have done as much and more with the conditions Labour have worked in.

Ah, so the Tories were in power for 17 years and then managed to deliver a strong economy just as they left power? Sorry but that's bollocks.

They engineered two (count them) crashing recessions which were the inevitable result of inflating two artificial booms so they could cut taxes just before election time.

Which is one reason why Labour handed control of interest rates to an independent Bank of England. In case you've forgotten GG inflation under the Tories hit 20 per cent.

And one last argument. If you live where I do voting Tory means voting for Nicholas Soames - a fat buffoon who owes everything he has in life not to talent but the fact that he happens to be Churchill's grandson.

Don't do it.
 




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