Get an ID card or get a £2500 fine

[Brighton Breezy]

Ha!
Then that makes me a sinner for voting for them!

I dont understand. If they are saints how does that make you a sinner for voting for them?

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

Does anyone seriously believe that those with criminal or terrorist intent will not be able to create a false id card ?

It is worse than doing nothing - it is mis-directing resources that could be better spent elsewhere.

 

[Cian]

Does anyone seriously believe that those with criminal or terrorist intent will not be able to create a false id card ?

It is worse than doing nothing - it is mis-directing resources that could be better spent elsewhere.

Of course they'll be able to fake one - very easily

I could knock a decent replica off in a few hours, AND the chip would be a working on (thank you Seimens all-purpose smartcard writer)

 

[captainmorganrum]

I dont understand. If they are saints how does that make you a sinner for voting for them?

I was pouring scorn on you comparing new labour to saints.

And belittling myself for being naive enough to believe that by voting out the previous lot I was changing anything.

 

[REDLAND]

How?

They could put a tiny tracking chip in the card. My parents dog has one injected in its neck, coz its a bit expensive like !!

 

[Biscuit]

New Labour cannot win. If they actually do some good it is vote grabbing and if they did nothing then it would be turning their back on the poor and elderly.

I guess people will accuse them of helping out the poor and elderly so they stay alive and vote Labour. How dare New Labour!

Post of the day.

 

[Cian]

They could put a tiny tracking chip in the card. My parents dog has one injected in its neck, coz its a bit expensive like !!

They only work if the reader device is within 3 foot of the chip.

 

[Brighton Breezy]

Thank you Biscuit.

I can see where a lot of the left's arguments are coming from and have no problem with people questioning the government because that is important in a healthy democracy.

BUT

Finding a conspiracy in everything and attacking New Labour even when they are doing some good does little more then discredit the actual valid arguments of the left wing because it makes it look like they just pick holes in everything.

If the left was more selective over what it chose to criticise I think a lot more people would genuinely listen to the criticism.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

New Labour cannot win. If they actually do some good it is vote grabbing and if they did nothing then it would be turning their back on the poor and elderly.

I guess people will accuse them of helping out the poor and elderly so they stay alive and vote Labour. How dare New Labour!

... errrr ..... that's because they're politicians !!!! Regardless of the party they are from very few of them actually answer questions put to them, a majority are liars and most couldn't give a rats arse about the public.

When they start to fulfill their promises, listen to the voters and remember they are there to serve US not their own egos then they might just start to win !

 

[REDLAND]

They only work if the reader device is within 3 foot of the chip.

rubbish !!

Working in cooperation with Israeli intelligence technicians, the Gen-Etics Company is manufacturing the chip, which measures only 4mm by 4mm. Its power source is the body's own neurophysiological energy. The chip is inserted in nonamputatable areas of the body and can escape x-ray detection.

"The Sky-Eye is seen as an alternative to surrounding the children of the rich and famous with teams of burly bodyguards (by being) followed by six satellites through the global positioning system, which has a 150-metre margin of error and has previously been used to track the movements of stolen luxury cars,"

 

[captainmorganrum]

Israeli intelligence

Now there is a quality oxymoron for ya!

 

[Cian]

rubbish !!

Working in cooperation with Israeli intelligence technicians, the Gen-Etics Company is manufacturing the chip, which measures only 4mm by 4mm. Its power source is the body's own neurophysiological energy. The chip is inserted in nonamputatable areas of the body and can escape x-ray detection.

"The Sky-Eye is seen as an alternative to surrounding the children of the rich and famous with teams of burly bodyguards (by being) followed by six satellites through the global positioning system, which has a 150-metre margin of error and has previously been used to track the movements of stolen luxury cars,"

You know how much chips along those lines would cost?

Somewhere in the region of a hundred grand apeice. And they also will eventually give the person they're injected in cancer, due to the constant radio waves entering their body and bone structure. Imagine having five mobiles strapped to your body, all making constant calls.

 

[captainmorganrum]

Imagine having five mobiles strapped to your body, all making constant calls.

Ooooh, groovy - are the all on 'vibrate'?

 

[Cian]

Ooooh, groovy - are the all on 'vibrate'?

Yeah, why not. As the chip would probably give you parkinsons too

Also, the chip needs to get power - it takes that FROM YOUR BODY. Where the f*** will it get power from if its in a card?

You can't fit a battery onto a 4mm squared IC. Not yet, anyway.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

Somewhere in the region of a hundred grand apeice. And they also will eventually give the person they're injected in cancer,

but it is for security. It must be worth it.

 

[Cian]

but it is for security. It must be worth it.

60,000,000 in the UK, right?

Assuming economies of scale kick in, and they manage to put a full GPS tracking device into a card the size of a credit card, it'll still be closer to 10,000 than 1,000

Also, they'd all be useless the next time the US decides to close access to the GPS network, as they can do any time. And they'd become slow and unresponsive during any time of war, like now, when the accuracy level is thwocked up way too high.

 

[Cian]

Also, if you were going to commit a crime - give the card to someone else to take with them. Theres your alibi.

 

[Brighton Breezy]

I think Dick Knight's Mum was trying to be ironic.

I would be worried if they started making people carry devices or have implants that could lead to illness.

 

[Biscuit]

MYOB you do make me laugh.

Your spouting out the same old FLAWED argument. The fact is ID cards are the way forward. Problem is, anyone who agrees with me is being catagorised by your lot as 'gullable' and people who just drink up what the government is saying.

Why don't you go and write a book about how Blair is planning to take over the world or something. Everything else your typing implies a fondness towards the 'Fiction' genre.

 

[Brighton Breezy]

Biscuit is correct.

ID Cards are going to happen sooner or later.

It is not some big conspiracy just the current trend in political thinking on security.