Exclusive Swoop - Poyets master plan tatics uncovered

[Mr Burns]

Nor me but it suits Mr Burns arguments.

His Plan A took us from 21st in League 1 to 7th in the CCC.

I have to be honest and say I don't recall Gus saying the players don't understand on a regular basis, but may be wrong.

Gus has said on more than one occassion that Gary Dicker is the who understands the system best, or fully understands what Gus wants.

He has said a number of times, the players didnt understand at times what was needed, for the latest one check out the Burnley interview.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Seriously though, not a moan or being negative, but the way we have been lately, do you honestly think we can win 3 out of 5, or even one for that matter.

I don't think anyone expects us to win 3 out of 5 when we have such a tough run in. It's got nothing to do with form but the fact that we are playing 3 of the top teams out of the 5 games. You are very clever and selective with your comments but it still doesn't detract from the opinion that Gus is a very good manager who is learning his trade as he goes along. Of course he will make mistakes as he's human but he is learning from those mistakes and improving all the time.

 

[beardy gull]

Seriously though, not a moan or being negative, but the way we have been lately, do you honestly think we can win 3 out of 5, or even one for that matter.

Not a moan, or being negative? You're suggesting you can't see us winning ONE of our next games? That's you being positive?

 

[Mr Burns]

He looked very dominant in central midfield against Ipswich and Derby.

Yet we have won just once in the six matches he's been back starting.

No agrument needed that Vicente it the dogs do das, but that in itself would suggest that when you best player starts the wins drop off, that something is not right elsewhere. Sorry if I'm being negative, but I don't see any positives of our season slipping away, and our manager to arrogant and pig headed to admit his way itsn't working at the moment and to change it.

Unless of course people think going from 4th play place and firmly in the play offs, within a few games, to possibility having to beat the in form leaders and still not get in the play off spots is a positive.

 

[sir albion]

He looked very dominant in central midfield against Ipswich and Derby.

That's not his position though,cause he would do well as he's class,but that's still not his favourite position.Im sure gus has him there because of the gash players we have available for that position.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Gus has said on more than one occassion that Gary Dicker is the who understands the system best, or fully understands what Gus wants.

He has said a number of times, the players didnt understand at times what was needed, for the latest one check out the Burnley interview.

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"With the system we played today Gary has the best understanding. He deserved to play and he was one of the only players during the first half who was creative on the ball, and he was the one who kept finding Vicente at the right time and in the right place.

Saying a player has the best understanding is not the same as the only player who understands it.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

That's not his position though,cause he would do well as he's class,but that's still not his favourite position.Im sure gus has him there because of the gash players we have available for that position.

Gash players? I think you ought to support Reading if you really feel that our players are gash!!

 

[Mr Burns]

Not a moan, or being negative? You're suggesting you can't see us winning ONE of our next games? That's you being positive?

Realistic mate is what I call it. In our present form and line ups

Reading - Do think we'll win
West Ham - Seriosuly?
Watford - Maybe but they are going for the play offs at an outside chance.
Birmingham - Maybe if they have already quailifed and take their foot of the pedel
Barnsley - Could need to win to stay up

Being realistic, what I have witnessed over the past few matches, then I think its a strong possibilty we wont win again this season. I'll support them all the way though, but unless Gus make changes to his Plan A, then no, I think there's every chance we will have to wait until next season for a win

 

[Mr Burns]

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"With the system we played today Gary has the best understanding. He deserved to play and he was one of the only players during the first half who was creative on the ball, and he was the one who kept finding Vicente at the right time and in the right place.

Saying a player has the best understanding is not the same as the only player who understands it.

Now go and find the other quotes he made before on the subject. If I had time I would sit through his press conferences and find the other, but I haven't.

But heres one to chew on

"We planned the game differently and sometimes we understood what we wanted to do but not all the time. We needed quailty out their today and that cost us."

- Gus after Burnley April 2012.

Does that comment suggest the players understood what was happening. Does that comment suggest they are good enough. Or after witnessing the shambles that was the Burnley performance, which is far from the worst we have played this season, does it suggest the players understand what he is asking. In my opinion no it doesn't. And thats my point exactly.

He has the players to succeed. He is unable, or if the truth was known, probably more likely unwilling to change his ways. Is that a top top manager. Not in my eyes.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Realistic mate is what I call it. In our present form and line ups

Reading - Do think we'll win
West Ham - Seriosuly?
Watford - Maybe but they are going for the play offs at an outside chance.
Birmingham - Maybe if they have already quailifed and take their foot of the pedel
Barnsley - Could need to win to stay up

Being realistic, what I have witnessed over the past few matches, then I think its a strong possibilty we wont win again this season. I'll support them all the way though, but unless Gus make changes to his Plan A, then no, I think there's every chance we will have to wait until next season for a win

Watford are losing which puts them 10 points adrift of the play off places so not even an outside chance for them.

 

[Mr Burns]

Watford are losing which puts them 10 points adrift of the play off places so not even an outside chance for them.

THats why I put them as a maybe. Burnley are playing for nothing, we had 5 out and out attacking players on the pitch Friday, and didnt manage a shot on target in that time, so thats why I put Watford down a a maybe.

But well done for picking up on that point. I take it if thats all you could come up with, you agree with the rest of them then

 

[grummitts gloves]

Let's just bloody go for it. Nothing to lose, playoffs a massive ask, so I hope Gus throws caution to the wind a little, especially for the remaining home games. Fortune favours the brave.

 

[Albumen]

As you have just proved, but the only one who is moaning is you mate. The rest of us are on a disscussion board, discussing football, so if you have nothing to add to it other than to moan, then moan off! :thumbups:

It's just an opinion.

 

[Mr Burns]

Watford are losing which puts them 10 points adrift of the play off places so not even an outside chance for them.

You pick me up on the Watford game, but not this

But heres one to chew on

"We planned the game differently and sometimes we understood what we wanted to do but not all the time. We needed quailty out their today and that cost us."

- Gus after Burnley April 2012.

Does that comment suggest the players understood what was happening. Does that comment suggest they are good enough. Or after witnessing the shambles that was the Burnley performance, which is far from the worst we have played this season, does it suggest the players understand what he is asking. In my opinion no it doesn't. And thats my point exactly.

He has the players to succeed. He is unable, or if the truth was known, probably more likely unwilling to change his ways. Is that a top top manager. Not in my eyes.


Maybe Poyet's English isn't up to stratch and I misunderstood him.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

THats why I put them as a maybe. Burnley are playing for nothing, we had 5 out and out attacking players on the pitch Friday, and didnt manage a shot on target in that time, so thats why I put Watford down a a maybe.

But well done for picking up on that point. I take it if thats all you could come up with, you agree with the rest of them then

Lol as far as the playoffs go, if we get in, we get in, if not then I think we've had a brilliant season in the league and especially in the cups knocking out Prem teams with our one plan A style of football.

 

[Barnham Seagull]

I think Poyet will be judged by Tony Bloom on the sucess of his signings.

He wont want to keep forking out money on players that come up short.

The summer is going to be interesting as the signings he will make will need to deliver and CMS needs a big season.

Going to be much more expextation from everyone next year including the board.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

You pick me up on the Watford game, but not this

But heres one to chew on

"We planned the game differently and sometimes we understood what we wanted to do but not all the time. We needed quailty out their today and that cost us."

- Gus after Burnley April 2012.

Does that comment suggest the players understood what was happening. Does that comment suggest they are good enough. Or after witnessing the shambles that was the Burnley performance, which is far from the worst we have played this season, does it suggest the players understand what he is asking. In my opinion no it doesn't. And thats my point exactly.

He has the players to succeed. He is unable, or if the truth was known, probably more likely unwilling to change his ways. Is that a top top manager. Not in my eyes.


Maybe Poyet's English isn't up to stratch and I misunderstood him.

Quality means technical ability and a footballing brain to think a couple of moves ahead to me. That costs money.

 

[Mr Burns]

It's just an opinion.

So if I discuss something, its not an opinion its a moan.

If you have nothing to say, expect moan about people having an moan, it's an opinion?

Can't have it both ways mate

 

[Mr Burns]

Quality means technical ability to me.

So if they dont have the technical ability, then surely they are not good enough.

So that brings my point I've been banging on about for 2 days, why PLAY THAT WAY? If they players are not good enough, oops sorry, don't have the technical ability to play a system..... why play it?

I can see why you choose to pass over that reply if thats the best you can come up with mate.

 

[Mr Burns]

I think Poyet will be judged by Tony Bloom on the sucess of his signings.

He wont want to keep forking out money on players that come up short.

The summer is going to be interesting as the signings he will make will need to deliver and CMS needs a big season.

Going to be much more expextation from everyone next year including the board.

There's no doubt Bloom won't back Poyet over the summer, and hopefully Gus will get it right, but I think his ways this season have blotted his CV in the games eyes and also Blooms.

No chairman like to break a transfer record three times in a year, and see only one of those considered a success.

Hoskins has been a flop.

CMS has been completly hung out to dry by asking to play a system he can't get to grips with.